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== Wiki RulesFlow ==
I think we should install Flow here.--[[Special:Contributions/58.62.115.240|58.62.115.240]] 10:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Everyone!
:I'm afraid I'm against it. From what I understand, it's still in alpha testing and the page on it on MW.org recommends against using it on a production site at this time. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 04:07, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
::I'm sure we will enable it eventually, but not right now :) '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 15:16, 2 April 2015 (BST)
:::Currently [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flow the Flow extension] is marked as beta and the developers recommend "to discuss before installing". I'm using Flow regularly at Catalan Wikipedia (where it powers several forum-like pages and a whole namespace) and it is a joy to use. If you are looking for use cases, spiralwiki would happily request it.--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 22:03, 24 July 2015 (BST)
== namespace - magicwords ==
Welcome to '''Orain'''! I want to start a thread outlining Wiki Rules.
Hello,
Obviously, there's going to be some guidelines that each wiki will need to follow, such as:
I am using subpages to simulate a multilingual wiki. I would like to provide links from subpages to the main page.
Eg. hello/de and hello/it will have a link to hello.
:* Absolutely no attack wiki's will be tolerated. This includes wiki's created to disparge, attack, humiliate, harass, or otherwise cause harm to an individual, corporation, organization, etc.
::* With that being said, it's obvious that we will not censor wiki's. Personal opinions are allowed, and as such, you're free to have whatever content you wish to have - within reason. Obviously, threats made against others, attacks, etc. won't go unnoticed.
:* Dormancy. At what time will a wiki be considered dormant? How should that be handled? Should there be a timeline? What if someone else wants to revive the wiki? What process should be followed?
I seem to get the same result for <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}} and {{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> in my subpages.
This is only a start, but let's start! :) <font face="Segoe script">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*poke*</sup>]]</font> 22:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
This [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Page_names help page about page names]
== Terms ==
says that ''magic words only work in namespaces that have subpages enabled.''
Is bibbia2000 wiki subpage enabled? How can I discover if it is?
I've written drafts for the [[Terms of Use/Draft|Terms of Use]] and the [[Privacy Policy/Draft|Privacy Policy]]. What does everyone think? [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 14:59, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Any suggestions or workarounds?
:I approve. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 07:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:Ditto [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 15:04, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
thanks, --[[User:Simonpa71|Simonpa71]] ([[User talk:Simonpa71|talk]]) 21:53, 16 September 2014 (BST)
== Suggestions ==
:Hi! The list of namespaces that have subpages enabled are set in the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages $wgNamespacesWithSubpages] config variable. Our currently deployed settings can be found on github specifically [https://github.com/Orain/ansible-playbook/blob/master/roles/mediawiki/files/localsettings/LocalSettings.php.j2#L907 here]. bibbia2000 wiki currently has the defaults for this setting, the default can be seen [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages#Default_value here], so most namespaces have subpages enabled! I hope this helps {{ping|Simonpa71}}, sorry for the super late reply here.. '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 14:46, 4 April 2015 (BST)
I don't see too many wiki farms survive longterm without sustainable finances. That usually means ads or deep pockets. Otherwise, the regular staff person or persons burns out over the years. Longevity of my wiki is far more important to me than ads on my wiki. That is because moving a wiki can be a lot of work, and one loses hits when links go bad due to moving.
== [[Forum:Index]] ==
I really don't think most people with wikis mind ads as long as they don't have to see them when logged in. A wiki farm can be non-profit or semi-profit, and use ads. See [[wikipedia:WP:Funding Wikipedia through advertisements]].
Hi all! I just wanted to get some opinions on [[Forum:Index]]. Do people find it useful or should we just use this page instead? It seems we have a lot of duplicate places to post / talk about similar stuff... '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 14:42, 4 April 2015 (BST)
I would like to be able to provide my email address in my preferences so that I can get a password update email when I lose my password. And more importantly, so that I can get notified of changes to my watched pages. I don't regularly check watchlists on wikis I edit on infrequently. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 21:37, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
: Ads are horrible to me. That's why I left ShoutWiki, and never create an account on Wikia. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 04:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
::I'm currently the individual that's funding Orain. I can assure you that we're not going to be going offline anytime soon. As of right now, I don't believe we'll be using ads. We'll be running off of my funds as well as any donations that we may receive. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]], do you mind enabling the last request [[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] made? I believe that's a reasonable request. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 07:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:Email is now {{Done|[https://github.com/Orain/ansible-playbook/commit/a03200050dc89011e8c2267296f1ef7564d8335e enabled]}}. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 14:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:Timeshifter, you should come on [[IRC]] sometime. I assure you that we're going to be around for a while and that we'll be more successful and therefore more sustainable by keeping it ad-free and donation-based. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 15:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
== How Do I Allow Viewing By Anonymous Users? ==
Thanks for enabling email in preferences. It is good to know that your funding is longterm. Many people will want to know this before starting a wiki. Maybe you could have opt-in ads for people like me who can not donate money, but are willing to put up with ads on their wiki in order to do their bit on funding. [[wikipedia:Google AdSense|Google AdSense]] is easy to enable.
I have set up a wiki called squaredanceideas. If I give someone the link squaredanceideas.orain.org they can view the main page. But they can't follow any links, they get a permission error. However, it seems an anonymous user can actually edit the main page. How can I set it up so that anonymous (i.e. non-logged-in people) can view all the pages but edit none of them? -- Proceeding unsigned comment by [[User:Brainstorm]], signed by [[User:NDKilla]]
Some wikis will get popular at times, and you will get slammed. Bandwidth needs and costs will go up and down. See the info at the top of my Wikipedia user page: [[wikipedia:User:Timeshifter]]. It is not technically necessary to use servers one owns. There are many large commercial [[wikipedia:server farms|server farms]] with servers spread worldwide that could handle the bandwidth needs. They have dynamic [[wikipedia:Load balancing (computing)|load balancing]] and can handle any fluctuations in bandwidth needs. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 17:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:You can go to [[Request features]] and ask for your wiki to have anonymous editing disabled, but made not-private, which I believe it currently is. I believe that anon editing main page is an issue for ALL private wikis (see below), and I recently tested it on another wiki. (I believe my IP is still there x.x) [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] ([[User talk:NDKilla|talk]]) 14:41, 19 May 2015 (BST)
:Opt in ads are possible and I may consider that should there be a strain on funds. I've already gotten the site approved for adsense and we do have an account. Thanks for the suggestions on bandwith and such. Do you have a wiki in mind that you're thinking of bringing to Orain? <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 18:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Addshore}}, {{Ping|Southparkfan}}, see [[Stewards' noticeboard#Global/local account on private wikis]]. [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] ([[User talk:NDKilla|talk]]) 14:43, 19 May 2015 (BST)
:Opt-in ads are a good idea, although we would have to code an extension for that. We're currently on such a server farm (Amazon EC2), and we would definitely love to auto-scale once we have the necessary funds. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 19:36, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
== Orain? ==
I may possibly fork more stuff from Wikia. I don't know. I forked some stuff to ShoutWiki. I may fork some other stuff to a different wiki farm so that I can keep each wiki more highly focused.
What about a brief note about the name "Orain"?
Orain and MyWikis are the only other free MediaWiki wiki farms left standing that I know of. See:
Does it rhyme with "The rain in Spain mainly falls on the plain"?
*[http://wikiindex.org/Category:Free_MediaWiki_wiki_farms Category:Free MediaWiki wiki farms]
Just curious... :-) --[[User:Simonpa71|Simonpa71]] ([[User talk:Simonpa71|talk]]) 16:09, 22 May 2015 (BST)
I may start a separate wiki on ShoutWiki. So that I have 2 wikis there. There are a lot of things I like about ShoutWiki. They allow what is called a "private" wiki that leaves all decisions in the hands of the original founder. Including deletion, who can edit, who can see the wiki.
:Feel free to look at [[Forum:Where does the name Orain come from?]] [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] ([[User talk:NDKilla|talk]]) 17:14, 22 May 2015 (BST)
== Wikis Inactivity ==
I created a wiki that the public can view. But I determine the scope of the wiki, and what new pages are allowed. I let anybody edit including anonymous IPs. If I need to leave ShoutWiki I can delete the whole wiki. That is a big advantage to Wikia. I have duplicate pages on Wikia that I no longer edit, and so they are out of date. ShoutWiki now has a forum that is just beginning. Central forums are very important in my opinion. Forums with pages that can be individually watchlisted. Wikia's forums are a huge help. They have a great community of CSS and JS experts.
Hello, I have noticed, looking at different Orain Wikis that a lot of them are inactive, or have never had an edit since their creation. I think instead of having so many inactive Wikis (and links), Orain should say, if there are no edits since creation for a certain amount of time, the wiki get's deleted, and then of course if the user says that next time he will edit, we can create it again. Maybe it's not such a good idea, but I don't think its good to have so many inactive wikis.
My main wiki is at ShoutWiki, and that wiki gets a huge number of hits for a few months every year. I would be unlikely to move that wiki again because I need to be sure the wiki farm can handle the bandwidth. My other idea for a wiki would not have such bandwidth fluctuations. But right now I am just thinking ahead. Nothing is likely to happen right away until I get other things in order. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 20:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
{{Ping|NDKilla}} What do you think? --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 05:19, 28 June 2015 (BST)
:We have [[Dormant wikis]], but I'm not sure if it's up-to-date. [[User:Wynter|Wynter]] ([[User talk:Wynter|talk]]) 06:14, 28 June 2015 (BST)
::Okay. Seems like this policy is not used, as I have seen Wikis inactive for more than a month and nothing happened. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 06:18, 28 June 2015 (BST)
:::I believe the policy says 3 months. And feel free to lock/close wikis if you think the fit in the dormant wiki policy. They can always be re opened. We most likely won't be deleting any. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 10:05, 28 June 2015 (BST)
:::Okay. How could I possibly lock/close wikis withought permissions? Do I just put a notice? --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 16:41, 28 June 2015 (BST)
::::As far as I am aware, [[dormant wikis]] is still the prevailing guideline/policy for locking inactive wikis. Reception, you are free to put a notice if you would like and then maybe leave a list here of the wikis that are inactive and someone will go and close them. Thanks for your help! -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 18:51, 28 June 2015 (BST)
:::::Okay. I will put a notice on the Wiki's, and then wait a few days and then tell them. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 19:38, 28 June 2015 (BST)
::::::I think that we should close them after 7 days, if there is no activity. I will leave a list here. I do not understand why for some wikis (not private) i cannot see the RecentChanges. Could you please tell me why this is happening?
<br>(reset indent) {{ping|Reception123}} what wiki's cant you view the Recent Changes on? Also wiki-creators can close wiki's by adding the 'closed' tag to the wiki on the database list ("|closed" to the end of the line) when the database list gets read the wiki will be closed
:::::::Okay. I will just leave them for 7 days and then close them. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 06:19, 29 June 2015 (BST)
[http://egc.orain.org EGC Orain]
[http://ghostlabs.orain.org GhostLabs]
:These are the types of ideas that we need :) Thank you for bringing them forward! The private wiki option is certainly do-able. Our focus is on creating the area, options, and security that you need and want. Private wiki? {{done|We can enable}}. The ability to delete your wiki if you want to move? {{done|willing}}. Forum options {{done|possible}}. I'm not going to say no to any reasonable request.
[http://hpe.orain.org HPE]
:As far as bandwidth goes, I don't believe that's a concern. I'll let [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] answer that. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 21:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:I believe {{ping|Arcane}} had a script that checked for wiki inactivity that he used and posted on SPF's talkpage a while back. Not sure if it still works, but it might be worth checking into versus checking every wiki manually. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 01:54, 29 June 2015 (BST)
== how can i get allotted wiki's admin? ==
:Like Dusti said, all of those things can be arranged. As for the servers, we put a lot of thought into our platform, and we're constantly upgrading our infrastructure. As for the central forum, we're planning to add one very soon. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 21:04, 9 August 2013 (UTC) (revised at 22:03, 11 August 2013)
i want to administer my wiki, but i dont have administrator.
::I helped figure out some bugs with the forum software just enabled at ShoutWiki, and used in the past, at Wikia. See [[mw:Extension:DPLforum]], and see the discussion [http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Jack_Phoenix#Community_forum_with_threads_that_can_be_individually_watchlisted here]. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 00:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::DPLforum is what we were planning to use. It's been checked into our repo, and it should be enabled in the settings sometime soon. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 04:14, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
My wiki Nickname is 'ㅇㄹㄹ' and My wiki is 'usergame.orain.org'.
== Post-login text error ==
:First of all, login and you should have it. It is technically impossible to make an IP address an administrator. If you log into the account you requested the wiki with and you still don't have it, leave a note on [[Stewards' noticeboard]] and someone will give you administrator. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 10:53, 13 July 2015 (BST)
== Question ==
When one logs in, the text still reads "You have been automatically logged into other projects of the Wikimedia Foundation." I think this is the [[MediaWiki:Centralauth-groupname]] message. [[User:Samwilson|Samwilson]] ([[User talk:Samwilson|talk]]) 08:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
:Yes,What that'sis the correctdifference messagebetween - however, it's already correctly set,Orain and IOreo? didn'tThey changelook anythingthe sincesame your post. Please tellto me if it happens again. --[[User:Kudu1108-Kiju|Kudu1108-Kiju]] ([[User talk:Kudu1108-Kiju|talk]]) 1400:4345, 132 AugustApril 20132024 (UTC)
:One has a delicious creamy center! [[User:Globe|Globe]] ([[User talk:Globe|talk]]) 00:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
::Looks like John [https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Centralauth-groupname&action=history got there] before you (at 12:29). :-) Looks better now. Thanks! [[User:Samwilson|Samwilson]] ([[User talk:Samwilson|talk]]) 22:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
== BeenNow seeingthat ait's lotthe of 504 errors2nd... ==
I'veWhere haddo awe lotgo of page "time out" while editing on my wiki, and speed is generally slow when opening more than one page at a time, evenfrom here on the Orain Meta wiki.? [[User:ArcaneTali64³|ArcaneTali64³]] ([[User talk:ArcaneTali64³|talk]]) 1901:12, 152 AugustApril 20132024 (UTC)Arcane
:Our automatic monitoring system isn't reporting any such errors, but let us know if it happens again. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 22:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::Okay, how about this. Search for anything on [https://allthetropes.orain.org/ allthetropes], and you get an automagic 504 error. [[User:Vorticity|Vorticity]] ([[User talk:Vorticity|talk]]) 20:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
== Merger Notification ==
''17 August 2013'' • <b>''FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:</b>'' <br>
<br>
Orain.org and TropicalWikis.com proudly announce that they are merging. This merge comes after careful consideration after the two WikiFarms began talks several weeks ago.
Orain.org will be taking over responsibility for the TropicalWiki farms and ensuring that the end user still receives the best customer service possible. Current farms on TropicalWikis will be undergoing a review and wikis that are currently inactive according to Orain’s inactivity policy will either be merged and locked to prevent spam or discarded.
No changes will be taking place in regard to user accounts. Accounts will be moved over to Orain’s servers and user preferences, passwords, etc. will remain as they were on TropicalWikis.
Any notifications regarding a wiki’s status will be sent over the next couple of days.
Questions can be sent to any TropicalWiki or Orain staff member.
--For the staff,<br>
Dustin Muniz <br>
<font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 16:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
: If you need to contact TropicalWikis staff, you can ping me on IRC (Tux). --[[User:Tux|Tux]] ([[User talk:Tux|talk]]) 17:03, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
== Google Adsense ==
After reviewing estimated monthly costs and such, I've decided to seek assistance from the community. We are going to be enabling Google Adsense globally. Initially, I believe we're going to have it set to anonymous users only. We'll see how that works and if, with community feedback, users are okay seeing the ads logged in - we can continue it in that sense. I am largely against ads, and I don't wish to do this - however, to ease the financial aspects with running the site - I believe ads will help. It will be a small, non-imposing ad at the bottom of the toolbox. I welcome your comments and input. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 15:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:I don't have too many objections to that, as long as the ads don't compromise Orain's wiki flexibility policy in regards to content. As for the amount of ads, that seems eminently reasonable, and I don't object at all to their proposed placement. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 17:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane
::We have the ability to filter the type of ads that are displayed. I think, with us being technology oriented and such, that ads along those lines would be the ones that will be displayed.{{unsigned|Dusti}}
:{{Strong oppose}} about ads. This is exactly why I left the other farms. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 09:54, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Adverts don't bother me. I use ABP, NoScript, and WOT to help decide if any piece of script should be allowed to run on my computer. Mostly I just say no to ads. I understand the reasoning for them though, and I sympathize with webmasters who rely on them to "keep the lights on" on their sites. But the Internet is a funny place. The webmaster's POV is that they provide a service, so it is only fair that visitors to their site should help pay for it, and that it doesn't really cost surfers anything anyway. The average web surfer's POV is that websites live or die on traffic volumes alone, so you're lucky to have me visiting your site. My own POV is that I have a data capped Internet connection, so I'd rather use my bandwidth for viewing content that I actually want to see, rather than paying for adverts to come down my pipe. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 10:25, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::Even though for anonymous users how could a small ad under the toolbox part of sidebar be dangerous, but eh its better than having it on your pages or on top of wiki like Wikia does.--[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 22:58, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::In regards to the ads - wikis will have the option to request the ad box not be shown on their site. Also, as stated above only anonymous users will see the ads. Logged in users will not see the ads unless they opt into it from their preferences. I've put a lot of thought into this - as I don't want to drive individuals away from the site and I only want the ads to assist me with the overall costs of hosting this project. I chose the smallest possible box from the adsense site to keep them as non-intrusive as possible. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 23:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
== Site favicon ==
Orain doesn't currently have a favorites icon (favicon), so i created one by resizing the site logo:
[[File:Orain_favicon.png]]
This is just a proposal, but it here in case anyone wishes to render an opinion on it. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 13:21, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane
:I actually kind of like it (: Thanks! <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 13:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:: Glad to know, Dusti. I wanted to make a footer link "Hosted by Orain" box as well since i figured we needed one of those as well, but a favicon was far easier to make, pleased to see you like it. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 16:07, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane
== User-based JS and CSS ==
I have recently enabled user JS and CSS pages on the wikiteamwiki via pull request #2, but made the global default to be disabled since that was the default setting in MediaWiki. This is a feature that is already enabled on Wikimedia wikis for a few years and I honestly don't think there is much harm in enabling this. Would everyone be okay about having this enabled globally so that everyone can benefit?
If this is successful, I would be glad to help out on creating global user pages (similar to Synchbot on Wikimedia). This bot is already running on the wikis of the [http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org Wikimedia Labs cluster]. --[[User:Hydriz|Hydriz]] ([[User talk:Hydriz|talk]]) 15:08, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
: I would support this wholeheartedly. I already requested this be enabled on my own wiki, but I don't see any harm in the feature being enabled globally, since it only causes changes visible on a user to user basis. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 16:07, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane
::Dusti has mentioned something about Synchbot to me as well, and I'm happy to get [[User:No8WiredBot|No8WiredBot]] to help out with this. Furthermore, if there is going to be a way for users to have global profiles, there should be a corresponding way to check the users contributions globally. On WikiMedia Meta-Wiki, I'm using Luxo's [http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php User Contributions] tool on [http://toolserver.org Toolserver.org] (see <span class="plainlinks">[http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=AugurNZ my contributions to WikiMedia globally]</span>). I wonder if that could be beaten into shape for Orain's purposes? <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 04:29, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::I {{support}} User JS, but I have to say, AugurNZ's edits are mostly unconstructive in his/her own userspace at wikimedia IMHO. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 11:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::The example I linked to above was to demonstrate the usefulness of having the ability to globally view a user's contributions, not to showcase my own contributions which, understandably, are negligible at present as I have only been active on the WikiMedia Foundation's projects for about a week. The truly "unconstructive" edit here is the one that denigrates another editors' honest efforts without provocation. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 18:59, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::(Sorry for being a little rude) When I was a kid, I acted exactly like you, having a bunch of accounts that will never use, and gets forgotten after a few years. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 21:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::Have I done something to offend you Zhuyifei1999? As far as I know this is the first time we have interacted together, so I am left wondering whether this may be a language barrier issue, as I understand that English may not be your native tongue. You apologise for "being a little rude", presumably in your initial reply to my post, then, it seems to me, that you proceed to imply that I am being childish! Interestingly, I see on your <span class="plainlinks">[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zhuyifei1999 user talk page on Commons]</span> that you ask contributors there to "Be polite, Be friendly, Assume good faith, No personal attacks". Perhaps you should take your own advice here. Should this continue, I will be seeking an interaction ban. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 22:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::#I apologize for doing that. What I not satisfied with is (all facts)
:::::::#You ask people to leave the project to access access your ''central'' talk page (which is not encouraged per some policy)
:::::::#You make a lot of user pages (cross-wiki) which are almost identical.
:::::::#You bring hot-cat scripts and edit notices which aren't even going to work on WikiIndex, which make me think of whether you have seen what is the wiki all about.
::::::#"Be polite, Be friendly, Assume good faith, No personal attacks" is from template, if you inspect the code. --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 07:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::User preferences on other projects have nothing to do with this project. For what it's worth - creating identical userpages is actually recommended - as some individuals (i.e. new users) have no clue what a redirect means. If you continue to be disruptive I'll be forced to block your account. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 07:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:{{Support}} - Also - Zhuyifei1999 - there's no need to comment on an individuals contributions outside of this project. AugurNZ has been quite helpful thus far here - and that's really the only thing that matters. While we don't exactly have a [[wikipedia:WP:AGF|AGF]] policy - it's implied, and I request that you remain respectful. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 22:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
== TOS link in the footer ==
We aren't the Wikimedia Foundation now. Can it be changed? Thanks! --[[User:Tux|Tux]] ([[User talk:Tux|talk]]) 00:47, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:That's something that will need to be fixed through a commit. [[User:Addshore|Addshore]] - can you fix that? :) It's also showing on the edit page - stating you agree to the Terms of Use. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 06:53, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
::Well, when someone gives me something else to link to I would be happy to make the change ;p [[User:Addshore|Addshore]] ([[User talk:Addshore|talk]]) 12:47, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
== First full wikifarm dump created! ==
Hi all, I would like to take this opportunity to announce that the first content archive of the Orain wikifarm has been successfully created. This archive includes all the content on the public wikis of Orain and any associated images, but '''does not''' include any private data such as user preferences.
This archive was created as part of [https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam WikiTeam]'s effort in archiving the world's wikis and as Orain is still relatively new without much content, the full backup was created in less than a few hours. The backup of the individual wikis are available [https://archive.org/details/wikifarm-orain.org-20130824 here].
We at WikiTeam will continue to monitor this site and a second archive snapshot will be created somewhere in a few months time, especially when the wikis from TropicalWikis gets moved over. For now, enjoy the dumps! --[[User:Hydriz|Hydriz]] ([[User talk:Hydriz|talk]]) 10:29, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
:Very good to see that your are collaborating with WikiTeam. Other than that, are you making internal security backups, you know, just in case one morning something goes wrong?--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 18:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
== Have I logged on to all projects of the Wikimedia Foundation? ==
I think that's what a lot of people are wondering after they get confirmation that they have logged on. Can this message be changed globally to say Orain instead of the WMF? --[[User:Tux|Tux]] ([[User talk:Tux|talk]]) 22:53, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
== TW help? ==
Hi. I didn't really pay much attention to the merging of Orain and TropicalWikis, so please forgive my incompetence on the issue. I was just curious to find out a few things-
*Were all (or any) of the TropicalWikis wikis moved over yet? If so, did orain staff and/or TW staff decided to delete a few wikis?
:*Mainly i'm asking because I used to edit the pretty inactive Not So EPF Wiki, and I was curious to see if it was still here somewhere (I'm not quite sure how to find any wikis on Orain because I looked on the "list of wikis" but I don't believe that's all of the wikis considering TW probably had that many by itself). In addition, i'm also looking for the Portuguese Club Penguin Fanon Wiki that was supposedly moved from TW.
*Also, were the user accounts from TW moved over to Orain? I am curious because (once again) I couldn't find what I was looking for, in this case my old TW user account which I thought was moved. As far as I remember it was under the name Cp kid. I figured i'd ask first under an IP before I created a new account.
Anyways, if someone could help me out with the issue i'm having, i'd appreciate it. [[Special:Contributions/98.180.118.6|98.180.118.6]] 17:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
== Need help ==
Hi
Our wiki was created by a guy called Fiero. However he quit the game this wiki was made for. I was working with him on this and I wish to have control (admin rights) over the wiki.
That way I can add members and change logins and such.
Can you help me?
thx
== Wikibase extension ==
Hi there, I'm just wondering if this wikifarm supports also [[:mw:Extension:Wikibase Repository|Wikibase]], and if it's possible to use that extension for a wiki. Thanks. --[[User:Sannita|Sannita]] ([[User talk:Sannita|talk]]) 22:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
== Flow ==
I think we should install Flow here.--[[Special:Contributions/58.62.115.240|58.62.115.240]] 10:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:I'm afraid I'm against it. From what I understand, it's still in alpha testing and the page on it on MW.org recommends against using it on a production site at this time. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 04:07, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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