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:Alright, let's not be rude to each other here. While I do not have the authority to officially speak for Orain and put an end to this (anymore), I am going to offer my thoughts. This filter that you are complaining about is necessary. Without it, we have had hundreds, if not thousands, of spam pages created by IPs. This clogs up the RecentChanges, makes sysops do extra work to delete the spam pages, and causes Orain to look as if it is not well-maintained. To be honest, I don't see this filter ([[Special:AbuseFilter/5|Filter 5]]) being deleted in the near future, especially since it has stopped over 6000 spam edits. It literally only stops you from including an external link in your first edit. To be honest, I see this being a problem for a very small number of constructive editors. I think adding a warning when the filter is triggered would be useful, just letting the user know their edit is blocked because it contains a link to an external site within their first edit. Most spambots (if not all of them) would never even process the warning and make sense out of it and know how to evade the filter. The warning would only help constructive members of the community. Maybe this is something we need to take look at. Long story short, the filter probably isn't going anywhere. The good that it does way outweighs the very few small inconveniences it causes. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 16:07, 23 February 2015 (GMT)
::Rudeness seems to be the most effective means to get Orain staff in gear. [https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Forum%3AAnnule_blocking_ip_address&diff=12349&oldid=12344 I suggested a message a week ago], yet [https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=abusefilter&page=Special%3AAbuseFilter%2F5 the filter hadn't been touched until I gained your attention today via rudeness]. Until Orain shows me that rudeness isn't required to gain a response, rudeness will continue to be utilized. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] ([[User talk:Michaeldsuarez|talk]]) 17:28, 23 February 2015 (GMT)
:::I'm sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately, that's not how the world works. I'm not sure if you're young or just immature, but you don't get to be rude to people and expect them to do what you want. The Orain staff are spread very thin right now, and this isn't exactly the biggest of their concerns. I used to be a staff member with Orain and I know how much work they put into this farm. You have absolutely no idea. They are the hardest working people I know. I have the technical ability to add a warning to the filter; however, I will not be adding the warning until I consult with a few others to get their opinion on it. Maybe someone else will come along and just decide to do it. Changing an effective, working means of controlling spam is not at the forefront of the Orain Staff's minds - especially for something so trivial. They have much bigger, more important things to worry about including maintaining the cluster of servers we run, running investigations as necessary, and handling global maintenance. I don't proclaim to know their current "plate" per se, but I'm sure they are handling quite a bit right now. If they think this is a big issue, and worth making a change for, they will do it when they have the time. I suggest you get your act together and stop being an immature member of this community. I don't know who you are (and frankly, I don't care), but you need to show some respect. A piece of life advice for you, from me personally: if you respect people, they will be more willing to do things for you. I'm probably going to get in trouble for saying this and you'll accuse me of "being rude" to you, but I'm simply letting you know that you are out of line. I appreciate your suggestion and understand your frustration, but your above comment is uncalled for. If you continue to be rude, I'm pretty sure it's not going to advance this issue and you likely will end up getting yourself into trouble. Thanks! <nowiki></rant></nowiki> -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 18:45, 23 February 2015 (GMT)
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