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Line 17: === Proposed solution === What I'd like to see is a copy of the "official" Orain logo be uploaded to Commons by an Orain Steward. I would recommend the most restrictive license available from the Creative Commons stable, which would be the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported] (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0) license. That's just my suggestion, and I am no expert on these things. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ\|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 22:30, 3 September 2013 (UTC)}} :I cannot agree with CC BY NC ND. If this logo becomes CC BY NC ND, You CANNOT upload to commons. <span style="color:green">레비</span>[[User:Yena\|Revi]]<sup><sup><small>[[User talk:Yena\|<span style="color:Green">Discuss</span>]]</small></sup></sup><sub><small>[[:mw:meta:User:Hym411/global\|<span style="color:blue">WMF wikis</span>]]</small></sub> 10:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC) ::You're right Yena, I hadn't noticed that before. According to [[commons:Licensing\|Commons' licensing]] requirements, an image uploaded there must allow for publication of derivative works, and commercial use of the work must be allowed, amongst other things. Hmm, I'll leave that to the Orain Stewards for further consideration. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ\|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 13:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC) :::I have an idea: The logo is usable, but only under conditions specified by the authors. Specifically, it can only be used under conditions specified by the creators of Orain. For instance, [http://wikiindex.org/File:Orain.png the logo is on WikiIndex], but it's use there is permitted because it was posted by one of the owners of Orain for informative purposes regarding the Orain wikifarm service. I propose the Orain logo only be permitted to be used on Orain wikis normally under conditions set by the owners, with use on non-Orain websites allowed on a case by case basis, again determined by the owners. [[User:Arcane\|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane\|talk]]) 15:21, 4 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane ::::There are two separate, but interrelated issues at play here. The first is licensing and rights related, which could be addressed by your suggestion, Arcane. The second is providing links to the image itself. From what I'm seeing, thanks to Yena's clarification about being unable to upload the logo to Commons in a license-restricted format, the only avenue I see to resolve this issue is for the "official" Orain logo to be uploaded automatically to each new wiki in the Orain wiki farm as the wiki is created. This could be a job for a global bot, methinks. :] <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ\|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 15:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC) :::::Well, actually, there is another avenue that could be considered: [[mw:Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages\|$wgAllowExternalImages]]. It's a long shot, and I doubt it would be allowed, but it would solve the problem of being unable to reach [http://static.orain.org/meta.orain.org/images/c/c6/Orain.png the logo] from inside a <nowiki>[[File:]]</nowiki> tag. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ\|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 15:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC) ---- Why dont all wikis just have a local upload function like Encyclopedia National(My wiki)?--[[User:Tyreek\|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek\|talk]]) 22:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC) :I don't agree with it. If then, it may cause waste of storage. <span style="color:green">레비</span>[[User:Yena\|Revi]]<sup><sup><small>[[User talk:Yena\|<span style="color:Green">Discuss</span>]]</small></sup></sup><sub><small>[[:mw:meta:User:Hym411/global\|<span style="color:blue">WMF wikis</span>]]</small></sub> 03:24, 5 September 2013 (UTC) ::Oh well, least I don't plan on wasting anything from this host :3--[[User:Tyreek\|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek\|talk]]) 21:28, 5 September 2013 (UTC) ---- You should now be able to use images from Meta Wiki on local wikis. This new feature should '''only''' be used for images copyrighted by Orain which can't be uploaded on Commons. [[User:Kudu\|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu\|talk]]) 17:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC) :Tested on [https://bot.orain.org BotWiki] and it works perfectly. Thanks Kudu, now I can continue my little project of placing my user profile pages on all (non-private) Orain wikis. This is as a test of this global bot service. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">✐</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ\|<font size="4" color="#000">⌕</font>]] 21:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC)