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:{{support}} [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 18:46, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{support}} [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 18:46, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{support}} Pro monarchy. [[User:Eikes|eikes]] ([[User talk:Eikes|talk]]) 18:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{support}} Pro monarchy. [[User:Eikes|eikes]] ([[User talk:Eikes|talk]]) 18:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{neutral}} Out of the Community Council, I gather that [[User:addshore|addshore]], [[User:Dusti|Dusti]], [[User:John|John]] and [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] were the original co-founders of Orain, and according to [[irc:7082878|this comment on IRC]], [[User:Joe G|Joe G]] ''"could have been a co-founder if he hadn't been away"''. Are there going to be any regular members (as in, non-founders) of the community appointed to the Community Council? Otherwise I have a bit of a problem with term "Community Council", sorry. It could be interpreted as "a council of community members", or as it currently appears to be "a council that oversees the community". This latter definition could be misleading for those who take the former as their understanding of what a "Community Council" is all about. Why not just call a spade a spade, and go with a "Founders Council" or something. Either that or appoint regular members of the community to the "Community Council", even just for a set term. I'm not angling for a place on the council myself, I wouldn't volunteer if such a position were offered. I note that Kudu said above that the number of council members would grow as the site grows. Perhaps something along those lines could be added? <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 20:32, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{support}} <s>{{neutral}}</s> Out of the Community Council, I gather that [[User:addshore|addshore]], [[User:Dusti|Dusti]], [[User:John|John]] and [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] were the original co-founders of Orain, and according to [[irc:7082878|this comment on IRC]], [[User:Joe G|Joe G]] ''"could have been a co-founder if he hadn't been away"''. Are there going to be any regular members (as in, non-founders) of the community appointed to the Community Council? Otherwise I have a bit of a problem with the term "Community Council", sorry. It could be interpreted as "a council of community members", or as it currently appears to be "a council that oversees the community". This latter definition could be misleading for those who take the former as their understanding of what a "Community Council" is all about. Why not just call a spade a spade, and go with a "Founders Council" or something. Either that or appoint regular members of the community to the "Community Council", even just for a set term. I'm not angling for a place on the council myself, I wouldn't volunteer if such a position were offered. I note that Kudu said above that the number of council members would grow as the site grows. Perhaps something along those lines could be added? <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 20:32, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
::Hi AugurNZ and Eikes, thanks very much for the feedback. An oligarchy is definitely not what we were going for. You're correct in that Dusti and I co-founded the site, and that John and addshore quickly hopped on board to help out and were also essential to the farm's creation. However, our goal is for the Community Council to be both "a council of community members" and "a council to oversee the community", and definitely not a Founders' Council. Everyone, in our view, is a "regular" member and can fill any position. I think the original proposal reflected that, and I now amended the draft proposal to reflect that as well (in italics). Please let me know about whether you think the amendments are clear enough to explain what we were going for. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 20:42, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
::Hi AugurNZ and Eikes, thanks very much for the feedback. An oligarchy is definitely not what we were going for. You're correct in that Dusti and I co-founded the site, and that John and addshore quickly hopped on board to help out and were also essential to the farm's creation. However, our goal is for the Community Council to be both "a council of community members" and "a council to oversee the community", and definitely not a Founders' Council. Everyone, in our view, is a "regular" member and can fill any position. I think the original proposal reflected that, and I now amended the draft proposal to reflect that as well (in italics). Please let me know about whether you think the amendments are clear enough to explain what we were going for. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 20:42, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:::I like the reword, and have changed my vote accordingly to {{support}}. Thanks. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 20:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)