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No. ಠ_ಠ to be honest I think they should only be chosen by the founders of Orain because this can lead to anyone acting like a trusted person deeply but then stabs people in the back and abuses their powers. --[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 01:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
No. ಠ_ಠ to be honest I think they should only be chosen by the founders of Orain because this can lead to anyone acting like a trusted person deeply but then stabs people in the back and abuses their powers. --[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 01:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
:The example was given above, of English Wikipedia's ArbCom. I don't have much experience with Wikipedia myself, but is there evidence of such nefarious behavior as Tyreek is warning about, on ArbCom? If so, is it widespread abuse? If not widespread, how was it mitigated? Could we apply the same solutions here at Orain? Sorry, as per normal I pose more questions than I offer answers to. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 16:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
:The example was given above, of English Wikipedia's ArbCom. I don't have much experience with Wikipedia myself, but is there evidence of such nefarious behavior as Tyreek is warning about, on ArbCom? If so, is it widespread abuse? If not widespread, how was it mitigated? Could we apply the same solutions here at Orain? Sorry, as per normal I pose more questions than I offer answers to. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 16:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
::All I gotta say is bad idea because Wikipedia has a biased administration who no matter how many reports on them, they never get demoted as well as they even use sockpuppets and bots to cause edit wars.--[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 21:59, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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Several people have been asking questions about Orain's organizational structure, such as: Are stewards elected? Who the hell decides things? How can I become a steward? This is a framework we can discuss to eventually have a clear organizational structure.

I would divide the main tasks between two entities:

  • Project Leader(s): Traditionally this would be a single person, but it could go up to two co-leaders as well, I think. The Leader would coordinate day-to-day tasks such as wiki recruitment, public relations, marketing, etc. They wouldn't be calling many shots, but rather distributing the work to our volunteer base. They would also identify problems where they exist and submit proposals to the Council (see below) for consideration. They could also directly appoint some relatively minor positions (e.g. IRC channel operators). They or one of their delegates would also oversee technical matters such as site developments and system administration.
  • Community Council: It could also be Board of Directors, Board of Trustees, General Committee, etc., but Community Council is my preferred title for now. It would be composed of at least 3-4 members, with the number increasing as the site grows. They would approve the budget, review the Project Leader's work, handle complaints, settle major disputes between members, etc.

Certain other roles, such as Stewards, also require a great deal of trust, but, similarly to how the English Wikipedia ArbCom selects CheckUsers and oversighters directly, I think the Community Council should also select them based on the community's advice. The same would go for local CUs/OSs, eventually.

This is just a draft. I'd love to hear your opinion. Kudu (talk) 20:38, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


No. ಠ_ಠ to be honest I think they should only be chosen by the founders of Orain because this can lead to anyone acting like a trusted person deeply but then stabs people in the back and abuses their powers. --Tyreek (talk) 01:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

The example was given above, of English Wikipedia's ArbCom. I don't have much experience with Wikipedia myself, but is there evidence of such nefarious behavior as Tyreek is warning about, on ArbCom? If so, is it widespread abuse? If not widespread, how was it mitigated? Could we apply the same solutions here at Orain? Sorry, as per normal I pose more questions than I offer answers to. AugurNZ 16:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
All I gotta say is bad idea because Wikipedia has a biased administration who no matter how many reports on them, they never get demoted as well as they even use sockpuppets and bots to cause edit wars.--Tyreek (talk) 21:59, 20 October 2013 (UTC)