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*You understand that Global Sysops are not considered local sysops, and that the global tools should only be used when absolutely necessary (spam attacks, no local sysops, etc.) correct? <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 01:23, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*You understand that Global Sysops are not considered local sysops, and that the global tools should only be used when absolutely necessary (spam attacks, no local sysops, etc.) correct? <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 01:23, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*:From what I can see; that is all he is asking the permissions for. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 07:55, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*:From what I can see; that is all he is asking the permissions for. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 07:55, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*::Good question, and I think you probably want to notice me about [[Global sysops#Note|this]]? If wikis want to manage their own business (and don't want to have Global Sysops there, they are free to opt-out themselves, create a policy (and of course I have to follow that), or in any way let the GS team know they don't have to/should do stuff there. Reasons for me to block/delete are spam (sure), <s>'''perhaps''' obvious vandalism ("vandalism" (but in other kinds) is tolerated on testwiki, and probably a few others. That is a reason to better ignore that, as it only can cause problems with the community.), </s>and if there is a request from a local sysop which asks me to do something, and gives the permission to do that, I'll be happy to help out there. For the wiki creator things: see below. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 15:13, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*{{comment|Question}} - Could you elaborate a little bit more on why you need GS to assist in your wikicreator duties? As far as I know, and it may have changed since I've been inactive-ish, but Wikicreators aren't actually responsible for handling locking wikis or anything else besides the actual creation of a wiki. I'm not opposed to them helping out with this in the slightest, but I'm not sure what the GS bits will actually do for your true wikicreator role. I would also like to make sure, along the lines of Dusti's question, that you understand that GS permissions are only to be used in an emergency in which no local sysop is available to act? That does not include handling any routine local requests through the appropriate local venue, routine deletions or blocks, et cetera. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 03:50, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*{{comment|Question}} - Could you elaborate a little bit more on why you need GS to assist in your wikicreator duties? As far as I know, and it may have changed since I've been inactive-ish, but Wikicreators aren't actually responsible for handling locking wikis or anything else besides the actual creation of a wiki. I'm not opposed to them helping out with this in the slightest, but I'm not sure what the GS bits will actually do for your true wikicreator role. I would also like to make sure, along the lines of Dusti's question, that you understand that GS permissions are only to be used in an emergency in which no local sysop is available to act? That does not include handling any routine local requests through the appropriate local venue, routine deletions or blocks, et cetera. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 03:50, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*:Wikicreators have the ability to lock wikis and I encourage them to because I'm not doing it and no one else seems interested in actively doing it. The policy is when locking; create MediaWiki:Sitenotice, which SPF is the only wikicreator who is not able to as Revi is a GS. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 07:55, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*:Wikicreators have the ability to lock wikis and I encourage them to because I'm not doing it and no one else seems interested in actively doing it. The policy is when locking; create MediaWiki:Sitenotice, which SPF is the only wikicreator who is not able to as Revi is a GS. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 07:55, 26 September 2014 (BST)
*::Wikicreator: There is no requirement to monitor the activity of wikis, but I've been asked to get through a list of wikis, like you did in 2013. In fact, I've closed a few, leaving the known notices on the Main Page (which sometimes is editprotected). There's no global editinterface (if there's one, that would be also okay for me), so therefore GS seems the only option. GS: see above. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 15:13, 26 September 2014 (BST)


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