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::::Yes, I would say that it is essential to the future of Orain as a viable host, considering the long delays that there have been in getting wikis set up and establishing administrative rights for the creators. Dondrekhan requested Encyclopedia Muricana on the 23rd, and of the 30th, it still has not been created. There seems to be an issue among the admins over duplicate wikis, but it's not an issue. If people want to try to take on making a clone wiki, just let them. If they are successful, then it's not a big deal. If not, then just delete the wiki when it remains empty. I realize that there is concern over "illegal" content, but it's not serious. The chance of someone making an illegal wiki is low, and even if they do, the admins are not responsible for it, assuming that they remove it when they are notified of the illegal activity. It's a low risk, there's no liability, and it just gets in the way of allowing people to create wikis. Creation needs to be user initiated. I'd be willing to get more involved with helping out if it were. Right now the risk of self sabotage by the service is the only thing that makes me hesitate. I helped greatly at Wikkii until they ran themselves into the ground. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 14:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
::::Yes, I would say that it is essential to the future of Orain as a viable host, considering the long delays that there have been in getting wikis set up and establishing administrative rights for the creators. Dondrekhan requested Encyclopedia Muricana on the 23rd, and of the 30th, it still has not been created. There seems to be an issue among the admins over duplicate wikis, but it's not an issue. If people want to try to take on making a clone wiki, just let them. If they are successful, then it's not a big deal. If not, then just delete the wiki when it remains empty. I realize that there is concern over "illegal" content, but it's not serious. The chance of someone making an illegal wiki is low, and even if they do, the admins are not responsible for it, assuming that they remove it when they are notified of the illegal activity. It's a low risk, there's no liability, and it just gets in the way of allowing people to create wikis. Creation needs to be user initiated. I'd be willing to get more involved with helping out if it were. Right now the risk of self sabotage by the service is the only thing that makes me hesitate. I helped greatly at Wikkii until they ran themselves into the ground. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 14:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:It's nothing against the idea but rather the technical behind it. Sure, automatic creation reduces work on the responsible group (for now, Stewards) but seriously does apply more pressure to sysadmins in case of a wiki needing to be deleted which is a practise only done once by me. In addition the cases of wikis being created causing legal issues, Orain at the moment really can not afford this as we have four staff members - One is inactive, two are purely technical and one deals with technical stuff and identification (thus point of contact for legal requests). I'll let [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] comment but that is my view. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
:It's nothing against the idea but rather the technical behind it. Sure, automatic creation reduces work on the responsible group (for now, Stewards) but seriously does apply more pressure to sysadmins in case of a wiki needing to be deleted which is a practise only done once by me. In addition the cases of wikis being created causing legal issues, Orain at the moment really can not afford this as we have four staff members - One is inactive, two are purely technical and one deals with technical stuff and identification (thus point of contact for legal requests). I'll let [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] comment but that is my view. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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::There are no "legal issues." You're not responsible for what people do as long as you take action against it when you are notified about it. The fact that Orain is understaffed is also a reason '''for''' making wiki creation user initiated. People aren't going to go with us to host their wiki if they have to wait two or three days at a minimum after a request when they can just go to another service and have the wiki created instantly. As I mentioned above, Dondrekhan has been waiting since March 23rd for Encyclopedia Muricana to be created. There hasn't even been a "we're busy but we're going to make it when we get the opportunity" message. People aren't going to wait. They might give a day, but after that, they're just going to go to Wikia and get locked into their BS. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 14:48, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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