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::I guess that might put a limit on such content. Though, just having an actively monitored wiki creation log would probably solve most issues there could be, if problematic wikis were quickly deleted. From a legal perspective, I'm sure that it's fine as long as you remove the content as soon as you find out about it. It's possible that someone might advocate illegal activity on an existing wiki regardless. The main issue I see would be test wikis of people just testing the service, but they could be quickly deleted. I think that the ability for people to just jump in an create wikis would be an attraction over other wiki hosts that allow people to create wikis automatically. We should aim to get people before they get sucked into the hollow promises of Wikia. They claim to offer so much, but it's really nothing and people will end up regretting their decision to go to Wikia. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 01:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC) |
::I guess that might put a limit on such content. Though, just having an actively monitored wiki creation log would probably solve most issues there could be, if problematic wikis were quickly deleted. From a legal perspective, I'm sure that it's fine as long as you remove the content as soon as you find out about it. It's possible that someone might advocate illegal activity on an existing wiki regardless. The main issue I see would be test wikis of people just testing the service, but they could be quickly deleted. I think that the ability for people to just jump in an create wikis would be an attraction over other wiki hosts that allow people to create wikis automatically. We should aim to get people before they get sucked into the hollow promises of Wikia. They claim to offer so much, but it's really nothing and people will end up regretting their decision to go to Wikia. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 01:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:::I must say I am in agreement with Sasha.--[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 14:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
:::I must say I am in agreement with Sasha.--[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 14:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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::::Yes, I would say that it is essential to the future of Orain as a viable host, considering the long delays that there have been in getting wikis set up and establishing administrative rights for the creators. Dondrekhan requested Encyclopedia Muricana on the 23rd, and of the 30th, it still has not been created. There seems to be an issue among the admins over duplicate wikis, but it's not an issue. If people want to try to take on making a clone wiki, just let them. If they are successful, then it's not a big deal. If not, then just delete the wiki when it remains empty. I realize that there is concern over "illegal" content, but it's not serious. The chance of someone making an illegal wiki is low, and even if they do, the admins are not responsible for it, assuming that they remove it when they are notified of the illegal activity. It's a low risk, there's no liability, and it just gets in the way of allowing people to create wikis. Creation needs to be user initiated. I'd be willing to get more involved with helping out if it were. Right now the risk of self sabotage by the service is the only thing that makes me hesitate. I helped greatly at Wikkii until they ran themselves into the ground. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 14:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:It's nothing against the idea but rather the technical behind it. Sure, automatic creation reduces work on the responsible group (for now, Stewards) but seriously does apply more pressure to sysadmins in case of a wiki needing to be deleted which is a practise only done once by me. In addition the cases of wikis being created causing legal issues, Orain at the moment really can not afford this as we have four staff members - One is inactive, two are purely technical and one deals with technical stuff and identification (thus point of contact for legal requests). I'll let [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] comment but that is my view. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
:It's nothing against the idea but rather the technical behind it. Sure, automatic creation reduces work on the responsible group (for now, Stewards) but seriously does apply more pressure to sysadmins in case of a wiki needing to be deleted which is a practise only done once by me. In addition the cases of wikis being created causing legal issues, Orain at the moment really can not afford this as we have four staff members - One is inactive, two are purely technical and one deals with technical stuff and identification (thus point of contact for legal requests). I'll let [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] comment but that is my view. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
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Forums: Index → Feature suggestions
Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 22:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
We should strongly consider adding functionality to the farm management extension to allow wiki users to create new wikis on their own. To address any issues with wiki spam, we could probably set a log that would strictly keep track of all wikis created by each user and in general. We could probably set up some sort of bot to handle bureaucrat promotion on the wiki for the creator. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 22:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- I believe, to the best of my knowledge, that this idea was proposed amongst the stewards at the conception of Orain, but was turned down in favor of the current method in order to allow the Organization to monitor wiki creation and avoid creating "useless" or otherwise "dangerous" wikis (i.e. illegal, promoting illegal activity, etc.). Yes, we could go through and delete those wikis, but it's best if they aren't created in the first place. Good idea, though. If others have a differing opinion, please feel free to share it and possibly some solutions to the problem(s) with automatic wiki creation. -- Joe G. (Talk) 23:44, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- I guess that might put a limit on such content. Though, just having an actively monitored wiki creation log would probably solve most issues there could be, if problematic wikis were quickly deleted. From a legal perspective, I'm sure that it's fine as long as you remove the content as soon as you find out about it. It's possible that someone might advocate illegal activity on an existing wiki regardless. The main issue I see would be test wikis of people just testing the service, but they could be quickly deleted. I think that the ability for people to just jump in an create wikis would be an attraction over other wiki hosts that allow people to create wikis automatically. We should aim to get people before they get sucked into the hollow promises of Wikia. They claim to offer so much, but it's really nothing and people will end up regretting their decision to go to Wikia. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- I must say I am in agreement with Sasha.--Tyreek (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I would say that it is essential to the future of Orain as a viable host, considering the long delays that there have been in getting wikis set up and establishing administrative rights for the creators. Dondrekhan requested Encyclopedia Muricana on the 23rd, and of the 30th, it still has not been created. There seems to be an issue among the admins over duplicate wikis, but it's not an issue. If people want to try to take on making a clone wiki, just let them. If they are successful, then it's not a big deal. If not, then just delete the wiki when it remains empty. I realize that there is concern over "illegal" content, but it's not serious. The chance of someone making an illegal wiki is low, and even if they do, the admins are not responsible for it, assuming that they remove it when they are notified of the illegal activity. It's a low risk, there's no liability, and it just gets in the way of allowing people to create wikis. Creation needs to be user initiated. I'd be willing to get more involved with helping out if it were. Right now the risk of self sabotage by the service is the only thing that makes me hesitate. I helped greatly at Wikkii until they ran themselves into the ground. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 14:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- I must say I am in agreement with Sasha.--Tyreek (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- I guess that might put a limit on such content. Though, just having an actively monitored wiki creation log would probably solve most issues there could be, if problematic wikis were quickly deleted. From a legal perspective, I'm sure that it's fine as long as you remove the content as soon as you find out about it. It's possible that someone might advocate illegal activity on an existing wiki regardless. The main issue I see would be test wikis of people just testing the service, but they could be quickly deleted. I think that the ability for people to just jump in an create wikis would be an attraction over other wiki hosts that allow people to create wikis automatically. We should aim to get people before they get sucked into the hollow promises of Wikia. They claim to offer so much, but it's really nothing and people will end up regretting their decision to go to Wikia. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- It's nothing against the idea but rather the technical behind it. Sure, automatic creation reduces work on the responsible group (for now, Stewards) but seriously does apply more pressure to sysadmins in case of a wiki needing to be deleted which is a practise only done once by me. In addition the cases of wikis being created causing legal issues, Orain at the moment really can not afford this as we have four staff members - One is inactive, two are purely technical and one deals with technical stuff and identification (thus point of contact for legal requests). I'll let Kudu comment but that is my view. John (talk) 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC)