User talk:Joe G

From Orain Meta
Jump to navigation Jump to search


Welcome to my user talk page!
Please feel free to leave me a message, I will get a reply to you as soon as I can.

I have logged onto All The Tropes

I have just logged onto the wiki as you requested. Thanks for setting it up. GethN7 (talk) 23:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)GethN7

Hi there! That was quick, might I say. You're certainly welcome. As for your rights, they are  Done. If you need anything else, feel free to ask! -- Joe G. (Talk) 23:45, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


Hello. I confirm that I am logged in and I saw this. --UserZero (talk) 13:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --UserZero (talk) 00:49, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Logged to to stand it up !

Hi, I have just logged onto the wiki as you requested. Thanks for setting it up.

Do I ask other privates user for my wiki to open a count into site ? Or do I manage into my wiki user I want to invite ? Please let me know if it's possible to modify user name or login into my wiki admin page. Do I need to add a mediawiki extension do do that ?

Thank you very much !

Hi Orainuser! It's my pleasure to be able to setup a wiki for you! As for getting users on your wiki, it is up to you to recruit them. They will be able to register on your wiki at and use that account to edit from. There is no need for them to come here to register. As for your username, it is possible to have it changed, but it is something that I must do for you because of our global system. It will change across all Orain wikis (including here and santewiki). If that's something you're interested in me doing for you, please reply to this message with your new desired username and I will change it for you. Note, after I chance your username you will have to visit Special:MergeAccount to setup your global account again to login to santewiki. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask! Have a good day, -- Joe G. (Talk) 23:05, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Inactivity removal

Hi Joe G!

I was a bit confused when I saw this as I hadn't the feeling that activity is required for this access. I rather understood this role as something which assists stewards to deal with all kind of requests where import access is needed and I still always take a look at orain at least twice a week. Anyway, I will accept this step if you think it is bad to have users with global access who don't edit actively. eikes (talk) 18:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Eikes! It wasn't intended to be of any form of insult or anything of that nature, rather just a step of caution. The global importer group has some rights assigned to it that are of administrator caliber and, as with any higher-level right, can cause damage to Orain/Wikis if your account was to become compromised. I had no idea that you still check Orain weekly, and if I had, I wouldn't have considered you inactive or anything. I'll gladly restore your rights to you. I hope there are no hard feelings, we appreciate the help! -- Joe G. (Talk) 19:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh, thank you! Of course there weren't any hard feelings, even if your decision had differed. That's not my style, and I hardly assume bad faith :) eikes (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


[1] Why you did that? The community is waiting for this, and you did not solved, and now you removed? We cannot work without most of the features, because we suggest changes, we make videos... so why, I did not saw any excuses for that.. Guerreiro Wikinambá (talk) 00:33, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Good afternoon. It is general practice to archive items that have not received any additional responses in over 20 days. Your request was quite old, and your wiki is inactive. Since the request was old and the wiki inactive, we try not to spend time handling obsolete issues. Since there was no response, we generally assume that a) You have found a workaround, or b) that you have forgotten about your wiki altogether. If your wiki was active, or you had inquired recently about the status, it is likely that your request would have remained on the page. I apologize for the misunderstanding and invite you to post a new request with the features that you still wish to be installed on your wiki. Have a nice day, -- Joe G. (Talk) 20:30, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
We are inactive because of the missing features... my question is, how many times I will need reinsert the features to be totally implemented? This is not, smart... but ok, I will do that.Guerreiro Wikinambá (talk) 12:16, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Good afternoon. You should re-request the features and they should be handled shortly. If they are not, you should periodically post a reminder or inquiry about their status. That will ensure that they get taken care of. -- Joe G. (Talk) 20:34, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


Hi Joe. Are you really going to resign? This is quite sad. :( One steward is gone now... Take care Joe and hope you return. Jianhui67 talk 15:59, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Your resignation and rights

As per your request, your rights have been removed both globally and locally. As you resigned of your own free will, and not under a cloud - you are free to have the rights back at any time. Dusti*Let's talk!* 16:37, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate you taking care of this for me. In the future, I may return. If you guys need help with "pet projects" or anything of that nature, I would be glad to be of assistance when I am available. You've got my email :) -- Joe G. (Talk) 16:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Requested wikis

Is there any possibility of the requested wikis being created? Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 18:44, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be short. It just seems odd that it's been a long time and there hasn't been any response to either user. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 22:28, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


Thank you for making me an admin. Could you also please give me import rights? Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 17:52, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Malicious JavaScript protection

I was wondering if this site had it in the event that a sysop gets hacked or a bureaucrat gets social engineered into promoting a hacker or skript kiddie. It seems that it does because I was trying to display a banner from Google Docs hosting in a frame using JavaScript, and the frame didn't display. I could try making the banner entirely on-wiki with the script and images uploaded to MediaWiki Testers (under full protection). The importScript() function works between wikis, right? My plan is to make a banner that promotes wikis at Orain. All wikis that display the banner would get to be included. It would be a way of helping promote membership among wikis. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

If I seemed at all forceful

If so, I'm sorry if I seemed like a jerk in any way. I might seem a bit short or frustrated when I get determined or focused. Do we have WikiLove enabled here? Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 00:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey, you didn't seem forceful or short or anything like that, it's just that when it comes to issues that can affect the organization as a whole, a definitive answer has to be given. My answer was not intended to put you off in any way, but rather just make it known that the organization does have certain procedures that have to be followed in order to handle some situations, that's all. Appreciate the cookie :-)! -- Joe G. (Talk) 00:38, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok, good. I just wanted to make sure. You were fine. I want to make sure that we have a good system going because I want Orain to succeed. The only two issues that I see are funding and getting people to create and edit wikis. With multiple admins,funding shouldn't be an issue. What I worry about is that if there's too long a process for wiki creation that people who are just trying out hosts will request one here, go to Wikia, try it instantly, and then get stuck there. We do a pretty good job blasting Wikia on the main page though. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 01:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Sorry if I seemed short. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


I thought you have resigned from Steward, with User:Joe G/Resignation, however you look like to have steward userright.... — ReviComplaint? 02:15, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

He rejoined the team apparently through Dusti's right changes. I asked him and he didn't object. John (talk) 04:58, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

Recent Orain Updates

Greetings all,

A lot has happened quite recently (I mean a lot), for those not actively involved in our IRC channel (#orain on freenode), here is a brief update of what has happened recently.

  • Upgrades
    • Orain updated to the latest stable release of MediaWiki, 1.23.
    • All extensions which have updates for 1.23 have also been updated.
    • We've moved over to MediaWiki 1.23's json style for i18n.
  • Downtimes
    • We have experienced a few downtimes over the past month. These include service failures (10 minutes in total), upgrade issues (5 minutes total) and issues with our host (15 hours).
    • We have looked into all downtimes and put into place methods we can use to prevent these reoccurring again.
  • New Stuff
    • After a few downtimes, we introduced Nagios to our infrastructure. Nagios can be viewed by any user on prod1.
    • We also introduced an IRC RC bot. All RC feeds on public Orain wikis are now sent to #Orain-feed on JDNet ( Users can join the channel manually as well as introducing bots to the channel.
    • We now have a twitter account! Follow us

We know the past two months have been rough with a few matters which have been occurring internally with our staff but we are working to resolve all issues which we are aware of as soon as possible. I thank you for your patience and I hope we can continue to work together to build an awesome wiki farm! Also, Orain will be 1 year old on July 12th 2014.

Thanks, on behalf of all Orain staff, John (talk) 21:21, 12 June 2014 (BST)

This message was sent using Orain's mass messaging system. If you have a concern regarding this message, please alert the steward team at the stewards' noticeboard.

Orain Site Update #1

This can be called the official first monthly site update hence the #1 so; let's get on to what has happened during the month of July!


During July, Orain added two new servers to the cluster, there were two incidents and one long term fix.

  • prod5 was added as an additional webserver which we plan to use to help distribute the load of web requests and as a fail-over so if prod4 fails, we can continue to provide you all with your wikis.
  • prod6 was added and is still in the setting up stage. It is planned to take over the role of prod1, a server we are planning to decommission eventually.
  • We had a small security issue regarding ElasticSearch on our prod3 server. No unauthorized access to the data stored on the server was seen and the server has since been made more secure. As a security precaution, ElasticSearch was removed from the cluster and wikis were defaulted back to MediaWiki search.
  • From July 30th to August 1st; there were issues with out going MediaWiki mail. This has since been resolved however incoming mail to all addresses are still not functioning as of August 3rd.
  • A long-term issue with images was resolved on July 15th.
New Features
  • A wikicreator group was added to metawiki so community users can handle new wiki requests which is one step into delegating new roles and responsibilities to the community. Wikicreators are chosen by system administrators using their discretion.
  • Cyberpower678's tool was given access to some database tables on public wikis. As a result the UserAnalysis tool works on all public Orain wikis.
  • UrlShortener was enabled on all Orain wikis to allow shorter URLs to be used. Currently URLs follow the form of 'https://$$id'. If wikis want to use a shorten URL of their choice; please make a request to the system administrators.
  • Private wikis may now (on request) use image authorization for their wikis. This means images are made web-inaccessible as to preserve the security of images uploads while still being accessed by users with 'read' access to your wiki.
  • Orain now allows the use of OAuth. Please see the OAuth page on MediaWiki for more details. OAuth requests can be made on any wiki and will be approved by a system administrator on metawiki.

On behalf of the Orain staff, John 17:35, 3 August 2014 (BST)

Orain Site Update #2

This is an update of all technical changes and issues during the month of August.

Technical Changes
  • prod1 was removed from active maintenance on August 6th and removed from the cluster a week later.
  • Orain migrated from RamNode to DigitalOcean. The work began on August 17th
  • We moved away from Memcached to Redis for session and general caching on all Orain servers.
  • We added prod7 to the cluster during the migration. It is responsible for Redis and static content hosting.
Technical Issues
  • The job queue did not run any job for 4 days as a result of permissions errors with Redis. We have rolled back to using the database for this for now.
  • All wikis experienced database issues shortly after the migration as a result of MariaDB cache taking up excessive disk space. To fix this in the long term, prod5 was recycled as a new database server.
  • For an hour on the 25th of August, users occasionally got caching errors and log in issues as a result of Redis taking up excessive disk space.

On behalf of Orain staff, John (talk) 22:02, 6 September 2014 (BST)

I noticed you on Nazis Exposed IRC

Do you have any concerns about it? Have you seen the notice on the wiki? The purpose is to expose arguments only, and we have a policy to require users to remove any names from content. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 23:39, 7 September 2014 (BST)

Orain's FIRST donation drive!!

As many of you may have seen, Orain has been undergoing some significant changes. To be frank, we've outgrown our current home. With 288 communities, 1,000+ users, and sites like All The Tropes growing daily - we're beginning to look at the long term future of the project. With current funding levels, we can last four more months after we upgrade to some new servers. Our last server change wasn't that long ago, yes, but it was done to improve the overall stability and functionality of the site.

We've launched an Indegogo campaign to raise $5,000 to accomplish a couple of things:

  • We would be able to move to a stable, secure, short to mid term server that has the capability to not only host us now but continue hosting us even if we grow significantly
  • Begin the process of investigating solutions that include us purchasing our own private servers
  • Begin working on expanding our current abilities and addressing some of our limitations
  • Developing some extensions, widgets, and potentially a mobile application to improve the end-user experience
  • .. and finally being reaching out to other mid to large size communities and bring them into the Orain family.

To increase the likelihood of donations we've included some incentives that we'd love to send out including t-shirts, hoodies, blankets, and some new userrights - Donor and VIP which will come with their own individual perks.

We appreciate your generosity and look forward on continuing to offer a fun, free, collaborative community for all to enjoy.

For the staff -- Dusti 08:01, 5 January 2015 (GMT)

My apologies on sending this out again, the first messages had an error

Can I ask you for $1?

We're 9 days into our 30 day campaign, and we've raised $537. That's fantastic! The idea of Orain, our message, our purpose - it means something. The belief that there can be a community led, a community ran, and a community funded website that's not ad-driven or profit based works.

Our community has believed in us from the beginning, and I firmly believe that our community will stand by us and continue to support us. It's okay if we don't reach our $5,000 goal. $5,000 was a best case scenario. $1,000 enables us to stay online another year. It enables us to keep looking at alternatives and other ways to stay online and cut costs. $500 halves that time and shortens our research ability. 11% of our goal is better than 0% of our goal.

I've made a pledge from the beginning. I've vowed to never force ads on this community for the purpose of keeping Orain alive. Ads are what separate us from the other farms we compete with. I will give my personal funds before I enable ads by force. Ads are a nuisance that you should have a voice in. We've toyed with and are developing the idea of individual wikis who want ads within their community. Some people can't donate a dollar, and that's okay. That's their way of giving and I'm down for that.

To the backers who have helped so far, Thank you!

If you haven't had a chance to donate so far, please please do. Your $1 will help make a difference in the WikiFarm world. You can help us stay online, free, and ad free.

If you have a little more than a dollar and want an Orain t-shirt, we've got those. We've also got hoodies, coffee cups, and blankets. Most of these things will have to be purchased in bulk so there's likely going to be an online store for the leftover donation drive items once the campaign is over.

As always, I want to hear from you. If you have ideas to help our Indiegogo campaign please send them to me or email me.

With love,
Dustin "Dusti" Muniz
03:01, 14 January 2015 (GMT)

Site news for January!

Hi there! It's been a wild ride over the last few days!!

We went from being dead in a couple of months to being certain of the next couple years to come! We're sitting at $2,100 in our Indiegogo fundraiser, just shy of 50% of our goal. Those of you who have contributed to the cause, I cannot tell you how blessed I feel. To know that the project I helped Kudu create a couple years ago is providing a service that is helping and impacting others makes me feel great.

If there's anything else you're able to give, it'd be greatly appreciated. We don't receive any other funds. We don't receive anything from advertising. We don't have corporate sponsors or government grants. We don't have staff who get paid. We survive because you want us to. Your generosity has ensured that at least for the next couple of years we'll be alive, online, and free. We'll probably have to do another donation drive in a couple of years, but that's the art of being community funded and supported.

With just a couple days left in the campaign, I urge you, if you haven't yet, to enter one of our running contests to win some free Orain gear. We have one via our Facebook page - all you have to do is enter! Also, any person donating $5 or more is entered into a chance to win some free Orain gear too!

Since this campaign has started we've started looking at what we can do to maximize the longevity of your contributions. We've began looking at the benefits of physical servers versus virtual servers and the overall structure and foundation of our setup. This month we welcomed Tanner to our Sysadmin team. Tanner has volunteered with Mozilla for the last couple of years and is a great asset to the Sysadmin team. Tanner will be teaming up with Addshore to lead our Sysadmin team. We also welcomed FastLizard4 from the Wikipedia Account Creations Team. FL4 is one of the roots for the ACC interface and brings a lot of knowledge to the technical team.

We've recently been challenged on the content that we allow to be hosted. Our staff stood firmly by our communities and made it clear that we support your freedom of speech. Over the next few days and weeks we're going to be updating some of our policies regarding wikis and the content they host to ensure that we have something we can point to when disputes and complaints like these come up. We want to ensure that we're giving our community the best while complying with local and federal laws. A wonderful quote that brings this theory home comes from Voltaire:

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

For the staff, OrainMessenger (talk) 09:01, 30 January 2015 (GMT)


I'm sorry you think I'm a stuck-up, self-centred brat. It's a joke. I understand what you're saying, but are you saying that I'm abusing my rights on Orain? Southparkfan said a similar thing recently because I was advertising another wiki farm, but to be honest, nothing interesting ever happens on Orain any more. I know about the whole wiki request thing and you think for certain that I'm being rude, but I haven't got anything to do on Orain anymore. Tau Ceti (talk) 22:09, 15 March 2015 (GMT)

Jumping in, I have similar concerns to everyone else. So far you appear to be a bit too clueless to be entrusted with GS. I've seen you say some pretty clueless things. Also meta isn't supposed to be very active. The wikis on Orain are supposed to have the real activity. Meta is just a maintenance and clean up wiki. It's where the global rights are assigned.—cyberpower ChatOnline 01:19, 16 March 2015 (GMT)
I'm just sorry about this. Are you going to get Dusti or someone other to revoke my GS? Tau Ceti (talk) 02:00, 16 March 2015 (GMT)
Nope. Since you haven't technically abused the bit, but you are held to a higher expectation as GS. Just be more careful, and everything will be fine.—cyberpower ChatOnline 02:03, 16 March 2015 (GMT)
I got up a Forum topic to see what people think. It's here. Tau Ceti (talk) 02:07, 16 March 2015 (GMT)


Hello. -NDKilla (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2015 (BST)


As the newest System administrator I'm glad to hear you're hopefully returning to us :) -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 02:33, 17 June 2015 (BST)


Hello, I have closed my own Wiki, because I no longer need it and I can't edit it anymore but there is no notice like on other closed Wiki's I saw. --Reception123 (talk) 06:30, 29 June 2015 (BST) And I also don't understand why I get logged out and can't log in on this wiki. --Reception123 (talk) 06:32, 29 June 2015 (BST) I have realised now. Also, I have seen a lot of wiki's with locked templates that should have been deleted. --Reception123 (talk) 06:45, 29 June 2015 (BST)

I don't know if I have the technical ability to delete wikis. If you want, as a wikicreator, you can add their database name to Database_list/Deleted and someone will probably take care of it from there. -- Joe G. (Talk) 15:50, 29 June 2015 (BST)



Reception123 (talk) 05:12, 2 July 2015 (BST)

AF typo

Thank you for moving that interface page. Hopefully it works now when examining abuse filter edits. :) I was tired -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 11:57, 8 July 2015 (BST)

Assinging rights

Hello, remember when we were talking about me being able to assign administrator and bureaucrat? I asked the MediaWiki staff ( --Reception123 (talk) 06:21, 13 July 2015 (BST)


I'll just say this here. Thanks! I tried to thank you for your edit to my close of Reception's RfA, and I accidentally 1-click rollbacked it then had to rb my own edit. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 11:06, 13 July 2015 (BST)