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== You have been granted admin/'crat on BotWiki ==

Hi John, as per my [[Proposals_for_new_wikis#BotWiki_.28Status:_Rights_Granted.29|original request]], I have now granted you Administrator and Bureaucrat rights on [http://bot.orain.org BotWiki]. I hope that the BotWiki will eventually become "''the'' place to be" for anything to do with running bots on Orain wikis, whether on a local wiki or globally. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 01:01, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

== Opted-out of global bot wikis ==

Hi John, I just saw this new [[Special:WikiSets/2|WikiSet]] and I'd like to make use of it. I already know how to respect the <code><nowiki>{{nobots}}</nowiki></code> and the <code><nowiki>{{bots|deny=}}</nowiki></code> imperatives, as Pywikipediabot is exclusion compliant "out of the box". I was wondering how I can integrate this new WikiSet you have created, in order to automatically respect the wishes of those admins who have requested to opt out of global bots using this WikiSet? I can do it manually, I guess, by checking the WikiSet before each bot run to ensure that there have been no changes to the membership list of wiki's that have opted out, but I'd like to have a more automated method if possible. Any ideas? <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 05:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
:To my knowledge there is a way. The best thing as far as I know is using the API call which lists and displays on the requested wikiset. I constructed the API call you need to use [https://meta.orain.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=wikisets&wsprop=wikisnotincluded&wslimit=1&wsfrom=Opted-out%20of%20global%20bot%20wikis here] [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 06:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks John, but that just went straight over my head ;) While you and Addshore may be creating bot frameworks that leverage the MediaWiki API, I'm still stumbling around here learning how to use an established framework, as an end-user. At present my level of knowledge is limited to ''"use this script with these parameters to achieve this result"''. I haven't really even encountered WikiSets before I joined Orain, so I have no idea about them either. I understand if it would take you too long to explain in layman's terms. Feel free to just tell me to RTFM or ask on #pywikipediabot on FreeNode IRC. I guess at least I know my own limitations, hehe. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 06:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I'd suggest what you said :p Also it is Addshore doing the bot work, I just there and throw demo scripts together on request. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 06:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

== Some items relating to extensions you may want to share/discuss with the rest of the Orain staff ==

In the event certain extensions are requested by other users or are implemented globally, I would like to share some information that would be of use to yourself and the rest of the Orain staff.

* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Language_Extension_Bundle MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle] - In the event any of the extensions included in this extension package are requested, I extremely recommend only the latest version of the extensions be installed from this downloadable bundle. This reason is since these extension are intensely interrelated and can easily go awry if they are unstable, and several interface errors can occur with bleeding edge version of these extensions. I recently requested most of the extensions included in this bundle for my wiki explicitly from this bundle alone for stability reasons, and I recommend that either this entire bundle's latest version (or certain extensions from the bundle) be installed if they are requested by anyone else.

* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_Bundle Semantic Bundle] - For similar reasons as the above, if SMW extensions are requested, I recommend they be installed from this bundle and all updates should follow the bundle update path. Any SMW extensions not part of this bundle I cannot speak for. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 20:17, 10 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane

== SACwiki requests at [[User_talk:Dusti#Wiki_made_private|Dusti's talk page]] ==

Hello, John. Dusti is away, and he suggested that such requests be addressed to you and other stewards. Could you please take a look
[[User_talk:Dusti#Wiki_made_private|at his talk page]]? There are three recent requests at the bottom of the section. It's kind of time sensitive and I'd really appreciate if you could help me out. Or shall I copy the requests here? Many thanks. [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 06:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:Done 1 (pending), not sure about 2 and I have done 3. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 06:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
::WOW! That was fast! Thank you very much, John. Regarding 2, when I make any edit to [http://sac.orain.org/wiki/Answers_to_EC_on_FDG#Traditional_standards_for_boys_and_girls this section] (BTW, how do you create wikilinks to other wikis such as SAC on meta.orain.org?) and save, the screen goes blank even after repeated refreshing, so I have to open the entire page to be able to read the section. However, the changes are always saved. This happens only with this particular section. I wonder if you can reproduce the glitch. Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 06:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Update – now users SAC01, SAC02, and SAC03 cannot edit because their accounts "are not unified". Is there a fix for this? Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 06:51, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Hm. Ask them to visit [[Special:MergeAccount]]. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:24, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::Just did. SAC01 appears to be all right, but SAC02 and SAC03 are unable to log in. Do you reckon it will be easier to block these two accounts and create new ones? Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 19:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC
::::::What ever you want to do really. Might be easier. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::So I'll do that then. And thanks for enabling file upload option -- it's up and running now. Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 19:51, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

== Request Features ==

I have requested some features for patereswiki some days before...
maybe you can tell me when these extensions will be installed???

Thank you (evagelosvar)

== TropicalWikis Merge ==

Hi John,

It's Spydar007 from TropicalWikis. Do you know when our accounts and wikis will be moved over to Orain?

-Spydar007
:I do not know a specific date yet. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 18:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

== [[Proposals_for_new_wikis#GammaWiki_.28Status:_Pending.29|GammaWiki creation request]] ==

Hello John. Could you please take at look at my '''[[Proposals_for_new_wikis#GammaWiki_.28Status:_Pending.29|GammaWiki creation request]]''' at your earliest convenience? Thanks. - [[User:ABloom|ABloom]] ([[User talk:ABloom|talk]]) 07:29, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you John for creating [http://gamma.orain.org Gammawiki]. Could you please make it private and inaccessible for anybody else except its members, and to grant me administrator and bureaucrat rights there? Thanks. - [[User:ABloom|ABloom]] ([[User talk:ABloom|talk]]) 00:19, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

== Please remove WikiconstitucióCustom logo ==

Please remove the custom logo at http://wikiconstitucio.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page . (long story, I will submit an image with the approriate size. Being an svg I thought it would scale automatically)--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 21:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

== Oversight please ==

https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyreek&direction=prev&oldid=2455

[[User:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|Inquisitor Ehrenstein]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Ehrenstein|talk]]) 01:28, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 10:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

== SACwiki login problems ==

Hi John. There is currently a problem logging in to sac.orain.org for all its users, myself included. Each time I log out, I have to reset my password in order to log in. Users who chose not to register their emails in their Preferences are stuck without even this password resetting workaround. Could you please take a look at the problem as a lot of work there is held up. Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 17:00, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
:Hi, We are currently looking into the problem. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks. What could be the cause of this glitch? Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 13:48, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Database issues or sessions probably. We fixed a few issues yesterday so if it is still continuing, we'll take another look. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
::::Unfortunately, the issue does continue for SACwiki users. Like, I can log into meta.orain.org fine, which also logs me into SACwiki, but I cannot access SACwiki directly. Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 16:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::Three days past, and the problem is still there. Is there anything that can be done about it? Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 11:10, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

== Need help reverting a lot of vandal edits to Orain Meta ==

Some vandal named "Sexy" went on a vandal spree, and while I blocked the vandal and gave myself emergency rollbacker powers to attempt to undo the damage, they shuffled a lot of pages around so I'm not sure where to start, so anyone who can clean stuff up would be appreciated. I also suggest page move rights be restricted to administrators and stewards only on Orain Meta from now on. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 11:57, 24 October 2013 (UTC)Arcane
:I'll take a look around the pages. I'll discuss with the others about move permissions. For what it is worth, I dealt with the account globally (locked) and blocked the source (local CU block here and a global IP block), hopefully there should be no further issues. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you. I figure since this wiki is mainly for coordination of the entire farm, page move permissions should be restricted to prevent obvious abuse, but aside from that, most other vandalism shouldn't be too hard to deal with. Again, thanks for the help, please revert any vandalism I might have missed. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 13:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)Arcane

== Kidding? ==

[https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=globalauth&user=John&page=User%3AEikes%40global&year=&month=-1]: I never asked to be locked … [[User:Eikes|Eikes]] ([[User talk:Eikes|talk]]) 17:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:At the time, taken as a request. May not have been intentional but, construed. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
::Well, you asked me and I answered "I don't care". So in fact it was done by your request, not mine :p [[User:Eikes|eikes]] ([[User talk:Eikes|talk]]) 17:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Let me reword to 'Done per *a* request' :p [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== Merged? ==

Have Orain now officially merged with tropical now? If so, how do I transfer my account?

-Spydar007

== Would like to request external wiki page importing rights for importing an Orain friendly version of Twinkle. ==

The Twinkle gadget from Wikipedia does not work on Orain at present, due to having been customized for Wikipedia. I have found a version of Twinkle on another wiki that will work with little to no modification, and I have also made XML dumps of all the required templates needed for the extension (I may be missing some, but all the essentials should be present for general use).

My problem is that the current import pages right is restricted to interwiki copying, which will not work for importation of this gadget for obvious reasons. I have tested this version of Twinkle on my localhost wiki and found it works "out of the box" with minimal or no modification, and I would like to provide a reasonably functional version of the gadget via Special:Import. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 03:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)Arcane
:{{done}} [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 07:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::I should be done for now. I imported a lot of stuff that Twinkle uses, not entirely confident I got it all (it has a LOT of dependencies and templates it requires, and I do mean a LOT), but most of the general purpose stuff should be in place. This version should work fine if you enable the gadget in your user preferences, but it will need some editing for Orain specific stuff, since this is a crude import of the Wikipedia gadget that was retooled for general use, and if I can make a more complete version, I'll let you know. If you want to rescind my temporary upload rights, please feel free, since I probably won't have a cleaned up version of the Twinkle import ready for a long time. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 12:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)Arcane
:::Removed rights. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 16:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

== The merge ==

Have TrpoicalWikis now merged with Orain? If so, have you moved the wikis and accounts over?

-Spydar007
{{unsigned|‎81.101.202.233|06:51, November 8, 2013 (UTC)}}
:Hi Spydar007, please see [[Forum:Tropical Wikis]]. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 21:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

== Bureaucrat flag on UnWiki ==

<s>Hello John, I did remove the bureaucrat as a test because I thought that it could be restored due to the lack of an asterisk. Please restore it as I have given you it and unblocked you. Thank you. [[User:Kiko4564|Kiko4564]] ([[User talk:Kiko4564|talk]]) 23:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)</s>
:Already done. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks, once again. :) [[User:Kiko4564|Kiko4564]] ([[User talk:Kiko4564|talk]]) 02:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

== Question ==

Hi John, the main page states that Orain has merged with TropicalWikis, however, I cannot find any of the Tropical Wiki wikis and my account doesn't exist. Was there an error and some wikis couldn't be imported? I'd appreciate it if you could answer some of these questions! Thanks!

:Never mind, I just read [[Forum:Tropical Wikis]].

==Hello==
Hello John, I would like to know if you guys will have a way wikis on orain can advertise themselves like we need editors. --[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 04:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:I believe we may be looking at editor retention and gain on wikis soon. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 11:58, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

== Uploads Disabled ==

Hello.

It appears that uploads are disabled on [http://cpsinfo.orain.org/wiki/Club_Penguin_Shops_Info_Center this] wiki. Is there a way you can enable it? Thanks. --[[User:YoshiCraft2011|YoshiCraft2011]] ([[User talk:YoshiCraft2011|talk]]) 21:58, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 23:37, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

== A favour ==

Hi John! I have a favour here. Will you grant Shanmugamp7 autopatrol here on Meta Orain? He is a highly trustworthy user (a global sysop on WMF). Thanks. [[User:Jianhui67|'''<font color="red">Jianhui67</font>''']]<sup> [[User talk:Jianhui67|<span style="color:#0E0">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 18:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:I know the user. Autopatrol just skipped my mind. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks Guys :D--[[User:Shanmugamp7|Shanmugamp7]] ([[User talk:Shanmugamp7|talk]]) 12:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== Wiki request ==
Hi John, could you please take a look at our wiki request? [[User:Moolriaz|Moolriaz]] ([[User talk:Moolriaz|talk]]) 12:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

==Tada!==
Look what I have edited on my wiki! :P [http://encyclopedianational.orain.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Noarticletext Here it is]. [[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 23:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

== I just requested a new wiki ==

Can you please add both the www and non www versions of the domain that I requested? I set the IP address to 192.184.92.154, is that correct? [[User:Dondrekhan|Dondrekhan]] ([[User talk:Dondrekhan|talk]]) 03:49, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

== TropicalWiki Accounts ==

Question about the TropicalWiki accounts. If you were to create a Orain account with the same name as a TropicalWiki account before they are revived, would it effect anything? I understand it may be a little silly of a question, but I'm just wondering.
:Nothing will be affected as the TropicalWikis data is unfortunately lost and there is no way for Orain to gain the data to import on our servers. Sorry. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

== Message on your talkpage on TestWiki] ==

I am just alerting you that you have a new messages from me (Reception123) on your on your talkpage on TestWiki --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:37, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

== Encyclopedia Muricana ==

Thank you for creating it! Can I have bureaucrat access now?

I also asked for the domains '''encyclopediamuricana.us''' and '''www.encyclopediamuricana.us''' with the '''www''' version as the default.

Can you also set editing to be restricted to registered users?

[[User:Dondrekhan|Dondrekhan]] ([[User talk:Dondrekhan|talk]]) 16:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

== Question about wiki types ==

On the form to create a wiki, it says to choose personal, public, or private. What's the difference between private and personal? --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 19:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
:The fact that AFAIK we don't allow personal wikis at the moment. Let me fix that quickly :) [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

== Rights ==

Thanks for creating my wiki. Can you promote me to bureaucrat there? --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 19:02, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:Done. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:10, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

Also, I made the wiki as private in my request, but my friend says they can see it. (They don't have any user rights on their account) --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 21:11, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

== A cheeseburger for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Cheeseburger.png|120px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for the username change. [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S. Reznov]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 22:24, 18 May 2014 (BST)
|}
:Welcome. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:32, 18 May 2014 (BST)

== Upload image ==

Could you enable image uploading on my new wiki, Hidden Treefort? I made a request at [[Request features]] but it seems to have been overlooked. Thanks! --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 17:18, 24 May 2014 (BST)

== Image glitch ==

Hi, I've encountered a glitch with images. I can upload them, but if I try and put them on a page it only shows the filename, not the actual image. I don't know if this is a problem on just my wiki (Hidden Treefort), or across the entire Orain. --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 19:09, 28 May 2014 (BST)
:Hm. This seems to be an issue on a few wikis actually. Investigating... [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:14, 28 May 2014 (BST)

== Thanks... ==

...for giving me the autopatrolled and rollbacker flag. Regards, [[User:Dragneel|Dragneel]] ([[User talk:Dragneel|talk]]) 22:22, 6 June 2014 (BST)
:Welcome. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:23, 6 June 2014 (BST)

== Request features ==

Hello, plese respond my [[Request_features#Fairy_Tail_.28Status:_Open.29|request feature]]. Thanks, [[User:Dragneel|Dragneel]] ([[User talk:Dragneel|talk]]) 22:57, 6 June 2014 (BST)
:Question: How I can import pages for Wikia to my wiki? [[User:Dragneel|Dragneel]] ([[User talk:Dragneel|talk]]) 23:01, 6 June 2014 (BST)
::Do you have an XML file of the pages you want to import and is this a one time thing or something you'll need to do constantly? [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:03, 6 June 2014 (BST)
:::I don't understand your question. I only want to import pages to my wiki, but I think I need importer flag. [[User:Dragneel|Dragneel]] ([[User talk:Dragneel|talk]]) 23:08, 6 June 2014 (BST)
::::Yes, but you also need an XML content dump. Which is why I am asking before I grant the flag. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:09, 6 June 2014 (BST)
:::::No, unfortunately I don't have XML files. But no problem, I will contact the founder of the wiki in Wikia to invite here and ask if I can copy/paste articles of their wiki. Regards, [[User:Dragneel|Dragneel]] ([[User talk:Dragneel|talk]]) 23:13, 6 June 2014 (BST)
::::::Alright. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:14, 6 June 2014 (BST)

== Well... ==

You should have mentioned [[Orain.kr]] on Site update! xD &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 10:15, 13 June 2014 (BST)
:Meh :p [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 16:02, 13 June 2014 (BST)

== Links in message notification email are wrong ==

Hello. Thanks for the site update! It's nice to hear that things are progressing. :-) One little bug I had was the email I got alerting me to your message:

<pre>
OrainMessenger left a message on your talk page:

View message: <http://localhost/wiki/User_talk:Samwilson>

View changes: <http://localhost/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samwilson&oldid=prev&diff=7394>

--

To control which emails we send you, check your preferences:
https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo
</pre>

Which obviously shouldn't have ''localhost'' URLs. :-)

—[[User:Samwilson|Samwilson]] ([[User talk:Samwilson|talk]]) 02:56, 14 June 2014 (BST)
:Joyful. I guess we don't have a major MediaWiki setting set. I'll take a look later. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 07:30, 14 June 2014 (BST)

{{tracked|254}}Tracked on github. &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 12:45, 14 June 2014 (BST)

::Thanks! :) [[User:Samwilson|Samwilson]] ([[User talk:Samwilson|talk]]) 02:15, 15 June 2014 (BST)

== 127.0.0.1 ==

Sorry. I forgot about the sysadmins. I was thinking from external point of view.—[[User:C678|<span style="color:green;font-family:Neuropol">cyberpower]] [[User talk:C678|<sup style="color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Chat]]<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online</sub> 13:34, 14 June 2014 (BST)

== Barnstar ==

[[File:Stervoorbuitengewonewijzigingen.png|right|thumb|Thank you very much for all your work!]] I'd like to give you a barnstar for all the work you do here on Orain and elsewhere! [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 19:56, 22 June 2014 (BST)
:Thanks [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:58, 22 June 2014 (BST)

== Image glitch followup ==

A while ago I reported a glitch involving images on Orain, but I'm still having the problem on my wiki a month later. I don't mean to sound rude or impatient, but how is progress on fixing this coming along? --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 02:11, 1 July 2014 (BST)

== CreateWiki founder issues ==

It seems it doesn't care whether the account is globally created or not. I did a test: <code>(Logboek nieuwe wiki's); 02:25 . . Southparkfan (Overleg | bijdragen) created the wiki "southparkfanwiki" with "Southparkfan" as founder ‎(Testing if founder-error occurs on own-created wiki)</code> and I got the same founder error. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 01:33, 6 July 2014 (BST)
:I'll look in the logs when I get back then. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 08:50, 6 July 2014 (BST)
::Until this issue is solved, someone should get access to createLocalAccount.php and a $wgAddGroups hack for userrights-interwiki I think. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 13:03, 6 July 2014 (BST)
:::The issue is it can create the account with the maintenance script before the wiki is loaded. And a addgroup hack for userright interwiki requires modification to MediaWiki itself, modifications I don't want to make. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:31, 6 July 2014 (BST)
::::Hm, strange. Something like a delay or whatever should be enabled [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 13:41, 6 July 2014 (BST)
:::::It's the way Orain is set up really. I'm going to work on an 'enable-able' hack for CreateWiki to overcome this which will be enabled on Orain but disable in the extension. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:43, 6 July 2014 (BST)

== Delete Techwritewiki ==

(Logboek nieuwe wiki's); 21:36 . . Southparkfan (Overleg | bijdragen) maakte de wiki "Techwritewiki" aan met "Mikmik" als oprichter ‎(Wiki created per request of Mikmik) had an uppercase letter in error. Please delete the database. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 20:37, 7 July 2014 (BST)
:And please create [[User:Mikmik]] on the wiki (and migrate it ofc) and assign it's rights :) [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 20:39, 7 July 2014 (BST)
::mysql -p -e "drop database Techwritewiki" [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 15:46, 8 July 2014 (BST)

== Image glitch followup ==

A while ago I reported a glitch involving images on Orain, but I'm still having the problem on my wiki a month later. I don't mean to sound rude or impatient, but how is progress on fixing this coming along? --[[User:Chill57181|Chill57181]] ([[User talk:Chill57181|talk]]) 18:35, 8 July 2014 (BST)
:We've investigated and can't seem to find any cause of the issues. Images seems to be working fine for me on my end now. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 18:36, 8 July 2014 (BST)
::{{done|Fixed}}. Apply the fix to the servers now. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 16:22, 21 July 2014 (BST)

== Error ==
*Hi,my wiki worldnews.orain.org 開不出來,How can I do?--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:43, 14 July 2014 (BST)
:What do you mean? How to edit, create pages, etc? [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 14:44, 14 July 2014 (BST)
::I do not come out open wiki yeah, tell me how to do?--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:46, 14 July 2014 (BST)
::I can little English .--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:46, 14 July 2014 (BST)
:::At https://worldnews.orain.org/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81, use the search function at the right side (http://gyazo.com/9b10f5914c949667acf0ce8dd99e5fa3), at the top. If you want to create a page called "test", type there just "test". That page doesn't exists yet, so you read "於此wiki建立這個頁面「Test」!請參見已發現之0條搜尋結果。". Click on "test" there. Put in the big box some content, and click on "儲存頁面". Hope I helped you :). [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 14:50, 14 July 2014 (BST)
*I just hope I come out of it open wiki.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:52, 14 July 2014 (BST)
*So,what this?how should I open my wiki?--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:54, 14 July 2014 (BST)
:Your wiki is available at worldnews.orain.org. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 14:55, 14 July 2014 (BST)
*this https://meta.orain.org/wiki/User_talk:John .--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:56, 14 July 2014 (BST)
*How can I do?you can help me?我一直打不開這個維基。--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 14:56, 14 July 2014 (BST)
*有了,我開起來了,orain meta is very good.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 15:27, 14 July 2014 (BST)

== Rename db/wiki ==

I guess https://tech.orain.org/wiki/Renaming_a_database and https://tech.orain.org/wiki/Rename_wiki are the same. Can you merge them? [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 14:45, 14 July 2014 (BST)
:Separate for a reason. The first is specific to a single database while the latter is for renaming an existing wiki which is referenced from other databases. While the same in theory; the latter contains some SQL code I want to keep aspartame to reduce confusion. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:55, 14 July 2014 (BST)

== Problème avec un wiki ==

Bonjour john, J'ai fais [http://meta.orain.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_wikis#Histoirewiki_.28Status:_Done.29 une demande de wiki],mais il n'a pas été créer. Pourriez vous le créer ?

--[[User:Bastenbas|Bastenbas]] ([[User talk:Bastenbas|talk]]) 18:16, 28 July 2014 (BST)
:{{done}} - Sorry for the delay. Let us know if you need something. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 18:23, 28 July 2014 (BST)

== Wiki creation ==

I just got another founder error. I did what the list said and waited less than a minute before creating the wiki. There has to be some trick that I'm missing. I there a way I can create a practice wiki until I figure it out? [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 19:18, 3 August 2014 (BST)
:The wording is probably not the best. It means wait until the minute rolls over. Here you added it to the list at :15, you need to wait until :16 to create the wiki. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:19, 3 August 2014 (BST)

== Protective programs ==

I was talking to Arcane about developing useful programs that could be used to monitor and address vandals or various other weirdos.

We were discussing this one script and he asked if there was a way that I could make it beneficial for Orain. He said there were some issues with people from WMF trying to cause trouble because of problems there.

This one checks for certain trigger words in discussions that could indicate harassment or some other improper activities.

https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/saloon_bar.py

[[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 19:23, 7 August 2014 (BST)
:Given how a few idiots from WMF projects who were banned or otherwise disciplined there by some staff here refused to accept this and tried to start nonsense here, LS has retooled a python script that will act as a tripwire for whenever certain things are mentioned in a post about a certain user, which should be useful in keeping track of death threats or threats of bodily or other sorts of harm as well as libel or other criminal mischief. It can also be used to detect patterns of vandalism so it can be dealt with more efficiently. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 21:28, 7 August 2014 (BST)
::I think a global sysop bot would be better for dealing with vandalism. This script could probably detect obscenities used in vandalism, but would be more useful for detecting hostile talk. A web crawler for talk pages would be better for WMF. [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 21:36, 7 August 2014 (BST)
:::I've got a program here: https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/WMF_scan.py [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 22:25, 7 August 2014 (BST)
::I oppose to GSBot. Its false positive will be pain in the ass. &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 11:10, 8 August 2014 (BST)
:::We can just use the scanners then. [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 14:32, 8 August 2014 (BST)
:Just writing here I have acknowledge the comments here. I will get around to writing a response later tonight to tomorrow. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]])
::I've got a crawler here:
::https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/wiki_crawler.py
::[[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 00:06, 10 August 2014 (BST)
:I currently do not see a need for anything like this. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:41, 10 August 2014 (BST)

== Abuse! ==

Hi John! I heard that some abuse has been done here lately. Could you investigate? --[[User:Stryn|Stryn]] ([[User talk:Stryn|talk]]) 21:15, 8 August 2014 (BST)
:Ha :p [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 21:16, 8 August 2014 (BST)

== Seems to be getting heavily ignored ==

[[Request_features#Encyclopedia_Muricana]]

DondreKhan was the only admin there. [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 20:48, 13 August 2014 (BST)
:Your request needs to be moved to the appropriate [[Steward_requests/Permissions|section]] and will be acted on then. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 20:53, 13 August 2014 (BST)

:Thank you [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 20:58, 13 August 2014 (BST)
: I want that page really only to be used for wikis after creation when there are no active crats or advanced permissions/removal [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 20:59, 13 August 2014 (BST)
::The wiki was already created - there isn't an active crat - so that's the place that the request should have gone. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 21:08, 13 August 2014 (BST)
:::Meh hardly an active wiki so technical details :p [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:20, 13 August 2014 (BST)
::::Yeah, refusing to do sth because it wasn't filed in the right place is bad for Orain. [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 22:50, 13 August 2014 (BST)

== Encyclopedia Muricana ==

Could you please add the domain <code>encyclopediamuricana.us</code> to the wiki? [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 21:29, 13 August 2014 (BST)
:Ask Revi or Southparkfan. Unable to commit now and this is the least of my priorities until next Friday. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:21, 13 August 2014 (BST)
::Tracked on [[github:319|GitHub]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 14:33, 14 August 2014 (BST)

== A pie for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg|120px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for merging the files for the domain. [[User:Lieutenant S. Reznov|Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium]] ([[User talk:Lieutenant S. Reznov|talk]]) 23:31, 7 September 2014 (BST)
|}

== Requested features ==

Hello,

Can you help me about that [https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Request_features#Ejderha_Nefesi_.28Status:_Open.29 Ejderha Nefesi]

Thank you.
:I'll ask others on IRC to take a look. I'm currently busy working on a few longer term issues so am unable to do any of this work really for now. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:54, 10 September 2014 (BST)

== Importing from Hungarian Wikipedia ==

Hi,

How can I import exported pages in xml format from Hungarian Wikipedia?

On page https://szk.orain.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1lis:Lapok_import%C3%A1l%C3%A1sa I cannot see xml option.

Thanks,

--[[User:Lalo5555|Lalo5555]] ([[User talk:Lalo5555|talk]]) 14:56, 11 October 2014 (BST)
:A steward can assign you temp/perm import rights at your wiki, please comment if you want that. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 14:58, 11 October 2014 (BST)

:: Yes, I would like that, mostly the permanent right. Thanks,

:: --[[User:Lalo5555|Lalo5555]] ([[User talk:Lalo5555|talk]]) 15:14, 11 October 2014 (BST)
:::Done for a week. We don't give it out permanently because of the technical effects an inappropriate import could result in. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 15:18, 11 October 2014 (BST)

::: Thanks. --[[User:Lalo5555|Lalo5555]] ([[User talk:Lalo5555|talk]]) 21:43, 11 October 2014 (BST)

Revision as of 20:43, 11 October 2014

You have been granted admin/'crat on BotWiki

Hi John, as per my original request, I have now granted you Administrator and Bureaucrat rights on BotWiki. I hope that the BotWiki will eventually become "the place to be" for anything to do with running bots on Orain wikis, whether on a local wiki or globally. AugurNZ 01:01, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Opted-out of global bot wikis

Hi John, I just saw this new WikiSet and I'd like to make use of it. I already know how to respect the {{nobots}} and the {{bots|deny=}} imperatives, as Pywikipediabot is exclusion compliant "out of the box". I was wondering how I can integrate this new WikiSet you have created, in order to automatically respect the wishes of those admins who have requested to opt out of global bots using this WikiSet? I can do it manually, I guess, by checking the WikiSet before each bot run to ensure that there have been no changes to the membership list of wiki's that have opted out, but I'd like to have a more automated method if possible. Any ideas? AugurNZ 05:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

To my knowledge there is a way. The best thing as far as I know is using the API call which lists and displays on the requested wikiset. I constructed the API call you need to use here John (talk) 06:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks John, but that just went straight over my head ;) While you and Addshore may be creating bot frameworks that leverage the MediaWiki API, I'm still stumbling around here learning how to use an established framework, as an end-user. At present my level of knowledge is limited to "use this script with these parameters to achieve this result". I haven't really even encountered WikiSets before I joined Orain, so I have no idea about them either. I understand if it would take you too long to explain in layman's terms. Feel free to just tell me to RTFM or ask on #pywikipediabot on FreeNode IRC. I guess at least I know my own limitations, hehe. AugurNZ 06:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I'd suggest what you said :p Also it is Addshore doing the bot work, I just there and throw demo scripts together on request. John (talk) 06:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Some items relating to extensions you may want to share/discuss with the rest of the Orain staff

In the event certain extensions are requested by other users or are implemented globally, I would like to share some information that would be of use to yourself and the rest of the Orain staff.

  • MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle - In the event any of the extensions included in this extension package are requested, I extremely recommend only the latest version of the extensions be installed from this downloadable bundle. This reason is since these extension are intensely interrelated and can easily go awry if they are unstable, and several interface errors can occur with bleeding edge version of these extensions. I recently requested most of the extensions included in this bundle for my wiki explicitly from this bundle alone for stability reasons, and I recommend that either this entire bundle's latest version (or certain extensions from the bundle) be installed if they are requested by anyone else.
  • Semantic Bundle - For similar reasons as the above, if SMW extensions are requested, I recommend they be installed from this bundle and all updates should follow the bundle update path. Any SMW extensions not part of this bundle I cannot speak for. Arcane (talk) 20:17, 10 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane

SACwiki requests at Dusti's talk page

Hello, John. Dusti is away, and he suggested that such requests be addressed to you and other stewards. Could you please take a look at his talk page? There are three recent requests at the bottom of the section. It's kind of time sensitive and I'd really appreciate if you could help me out. Or shall I copy the requests here? Many thanks. SAC SEC (talk) 06:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Done 1 (pending), not sure about 2 and I have done 3. John (talk) 06:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
WOW! That was fast! Thank you very much, John. Regarding 2, when I make any edit to this section (BTW, how do you create wikilinks to other wikis such as SAC on meta.orain.org?) and save, the screen goes blank even after repeated refreshing, so I have to open the entire page to be able to read the section. However, the changes are always saved. This happens only with this particular section. I wonder if you can reproduce the glitch. Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 06:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Update – now users SAC01, SAC02, and SAC03 cannot edit because their accounts "are not unified". Is there a fix for this? Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 06:51, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hm. Ask them to visit Special:MergeAccount. John (talk) 14:24, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Just did. SAC01 appears to be all right, but SAC02 and SAC03 are unable to log in. Do you reckon it will be easier to block these two accounts and create new ones? Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 19:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC
What ever you want to do really. Might be easier. John (talk) 19:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
So I'll do that then. And thanks for enabling file upload option -- it's up and running now. Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 19:51, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Request Features

I have requested some features for patereswiki some days before... maybe you can tell me when these extensions will be installed???

Thank you (evagelosvar)

TropicalWikis Merge

Hi John,

It's Spydar007 from TropicalWikis. Do you know when our accounts and wikis will be moved over to Orain?

-Spydar007

I do not know a specific date yet. John (talk) 18:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

GammaWiki creation request

Hello John. Could you please take at look at my GammaWiki creation request at your earliest convenience? Thanks. - ABloom (talk) 07:29, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you John for creating Gammawiki. Could you please make it private and inaccessible for anybody else except its members, and to grant me administrator and bureaucrat rights there? Thanks. - ABloom (talk) 00:19, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Please remove the custom logo at http://wikiconstitucio.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page . (long story, I will submit an image with the approriate size. Being an svg I thought it would scale automatically)--QuimGil (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Oversight please

https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyreek&direction=prev&oldid=2455

Inquisitor Ehrenstein (talk) 01:28, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done John (talk) 10:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

SACwiki login problems

Hi John. There is currently a problem logging in to sac.orain.org for all its users, myself included. Each time I log out, I have to reset my password in order to log in. Users who chose not to register their emails in their Preferences are stuck without even this password resetting workaround. Could you please take a look at the problem as a lot of work there is held up. Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 17:00, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, We are currently looking into the problem. John (talk) 17:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. What could be the cause of this glitch? Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 13:48, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Database issues or sessions probably. We fixed a few issues yesterday so if it is still continuing, we'll take another look. John (talk) 13:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the issue does continue for SACwiki users. Like, I can log into meta.orain.org fine, which also logs me into SACwiki, but I cannot access SACwiki directly. Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Three days past, and the problem is still there. Is there anything that can be done about it? Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 11:10, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Need help reverting a lot of vandal edits to Orain Meta

Some vandal named "Sexy" went on a vandal spree, and while I blocked the vandal and gave myself emergency rollbacker powers to attempt to undo the damage, they shuffled a lot of pages around so I'm not sure where to start, so anyone who can clean stuff up would be appreciated. I also suggest page move rights be restricted to administrators and stewards only on Orain Meta from now on. Arcane (talk) 11:57, 24 October 2013 (UTC)Arcane

I'll take a look around the pages. I'll discuss with the others about move permissions. For what it is worth, I dealt with the account globally (locked) and blocked the source (local CU block here and a global IP block), hopefully there should be no further issues. John (talk) 13:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I figure since this wiki is mainly for coordination of the entire farm, page move permissions should be restricted to prevent obvious abuse, but aside from that, most other vandalism shouldn't be too hard to deal with. Again, thanks for the help, please revert any vandalism I might have missed. Arcane (talk) 13:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)Arcane

Kidding?

[1]: I never asked to be locked … Eikes (talk) 17:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

At the time, taken as a request. May not have been intentional but, construed. John (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Well, you asked me and I answered "I don't care". So in fact it was done by your request, not mine :p eikes (talk) 17:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Let me reword to 'Done per *a* request' :p John (talk) 17:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Merged?

Have Orain now officially merged with tropical now? If so, how do I transfer my account?

-Spydar007

Would like to request external wiki page importing rights for importing an Orain friendly version of Twinkle.

The Twinkle gadget from Wikipedia does not work on Orain at present, due to having been customized for Wikipedia. I have found a version of Twinkle on another wiki that will work with little to no modification, and I have also made XML dumps of all the required templates needed for the extension (I may be missing some, but all the essentials should be present for general use).

My problem is that the current import pages right is restricted to interwiki copying, which will not work for importation of this gadget for obvious reasons. I have tested this version of Twinkle on my localhost wiki and found it works "out of the box" with minimal or no modification, and I would like to provide a reasonably functional version of the gadget via Special:Import. Arcane (talk) 03:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)Arcane

 Done John (talk) 07:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I should be done for now. I imported a lot of stuff that Twinkle uses, not entirely confident I got it all (it has a LOT of dependencies and templates it requires, and I do mean a LOT), but most of the general purpose stuff should be in place. This version should work fine if you enable the gadget in your user preferences, but it will need some editing for Orain specific stuff, since this is a crude import of the Wikipedia gadget that was retooled for general use, and if I can make a more complete version, I'll let you know. If you want to rescind my temporary upload rights, please feel free, since I probably won't have a cleaned up version of the Twinkle import ready for a long time. Arcane (talk) 12:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)Arcane
Removed rights. John (talk) 16:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

The merge

Have TrpoicalWikis now merged with Orain? If so, have you moved the wikis and accounts over?

-Spydar007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎81.101.202.233 (talkcontribs) 06:51, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Spydar007, please see Forum:Tropical Wikis. Kudu (talk) 21:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Bureaucrat flag on UnWiki

Hello John, I did remove the bureaucrat as a test because I thought that it could be restored due to the lack of an asterisk. Please restore it as I have given you it and unblocked you. Thank you. Kiko4564 (talk) 23:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Already done. John (talk) 23:52, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, once again. :) Kiko4564 (talk) 02:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Question

Hi John, the main page states that Orain has merged with TropicalWikis, however, I cannot find any of the Tropical Wiki wikis and my account doesn't exist. Was there an error and some wikis couldn't be imported? I'd appreciate it if you could answer some of these questions! Thanks!

Never mind, I just read Forum:Tropical Wikis.

Hello

Hello John, I would like to know if you guys will have a way wikis on orain can advertise themselves like we need editors. --Tyreek (talk) 04:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I believe we may be looking at editor retention and gain on wikis soon. John (talk) 11:58, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Uploads Disabled

Hello.

It appears that uploads are disabled on this wiki. Is there a way you can enable it? Thanks. --YoshiCraft2011 (talk) 21:58, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done -- Joe G. (Talk) 23:37, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

A favour

Hi John! I have a favour here. Will you grant Shanmugamp7 autopatrol here on Meta Orain? He is a highly trustworthy user (a global sysop on WMF). Thanks. Jianhui67 talk 18:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I know the user. Autopatrol just skipped my mind. John (talk) 22:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Guys :D--Shanmugamp7 (talk) 12:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Wiki request

Hi John, could you please take a look at our wiki request? Moolriaz (talk) 12:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Tada!

Look what I have edited on my wiki! :P Here it is. Tyreek (talk) 23:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I just requested a new wiki

Can you please add both the www and non www versions of the domain that I requested? I set the IP address to 192.184.92.154, is that correct? Dondrekhan (talk) 03:49, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

TropicalWiki Accounts

Question about the TropicalWiki accounts. If you were to create a Orain account with the same name as a TropicalWiki account before they are revived, would it effect anything? I understand it may be a little silly of a question, but I'm just wondering.

Nothing will be affected as the TropicalWikis data is unfortunately lost and there is no way for Orain to gain the data to import on our servers. Sorry. John (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Message on your talkpage on TestWiki]

I am just alerting you that you have a new messages from me (Reception123) on your on your talkpage on TestWiki --Reception123 (talk) 18:37, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Muricana

Thank you for creating it! Can I have bureaucrat access now?

I also asked for the domains encyclopediamuricana.us and www.encyclopediamuricana.us with the www version as the default.

Can you also set editing to be restricted to registered users?

Dondrekhan (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Question about wiki types

On the form to create a wiki, it says to choose personal, public, or private. What's the difference between private and personal? --Chill57181 (talk) 19:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

The fact that AFAIK we don't allow personal wikis at the moment. Let me fix that quickly :) John (talk) 19:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Rights

Thanks for creating my wiki. Can you promote me to bureaucrat there? --Chill57181 (talk) 19:02, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

Done. John (talk) 19:10, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

Also, I made the wiki as private in my request, but my friend says they can see it. (They don't have any user rights on their account) --Chill57181 (talk) 21:11, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

A cheeseburger for you!

Thanks for the username change. Lieutenant S. Reznov (talk) 22:24, 18 May 2014 (BST)
Welcome. John (talk) 22:32, 18 May 2014 (BST)

Upload image

Could you enable image uploading on my new wiki, Hidden Treefort? I made a request at Request features but it seems to have been overlooked. Thanks! --Chill57181 (talk) 17:18, 24 May 2014 (BST)

Image glitch

Hi, I've encountered a glitch with images. I can upload them, but if I try and put them on a page it only shows the filename, not the actual image. I don't know if this is a problem on just my wiki (Hidden Treefort), or across the entire Orain. --Chill57181 (talk) 19:09, 28 May 2014 (BST)

Hm. This seems to be an issue on a few wikis actually. Investigating... John (talk) 19:14, 28 May 2014 (BST)

Thanks...

...for giving me the autopatrolled and rollbacker flag. Regards, Dragneel (talk) 22:22, 6 June 2014 (BST)

Welcome. John (talk) 22:23, 6 June 2014 (BST)

Request features

Hello, plese respond my request feature. Thanks, Dragneel (talk) 22:57, 6 June 2014 (BST)

Question: How I can import pages for Wikia to my wiki? Dragneel (talk) 23:01, 6 June 2014 (BST)
Do you have an XML file of the pages you want to import and is this a one time thing or something you'll need to do constantly? John (talk) 23:03, 6 June 2014 (BST)
I don't understand your question. I only want to import pages to my wiki, but I think I need importer flag. Dragneel (talk) 23:08, 6 June 2014 (BST)
Yes, but you also need an XML content dump. Which is why I am asking before I grant the flag. John (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2014 (BST)
No, unfortunately I don't have XML files. But no problem, I will contact the founder of the wiki in Wikia to invite here and ask if I can copy/paste articles of their wiki. Regards, Dragneel (talk) 23:13, 6 June 2014 (BST)
Alright. John (talk) 23:14, 6 June 2014 (BST)

Well...

You should have mentioned Orain.kr on Site update! xD — ReviComplaint? 10:15, 13 June 2014 (BST)

Meh :p John (talk) 16:02, 13 June 2014 (BST)

Links in message notification email are wrong

Hello. Thanks for the site update! It's nice to hear that things are progressing. :-) One little bug I had was the email I got alerting me to your message:

OrainMessenger left a message on your talk page:

View message: <http://localhost/wiki/User_talk:Samwilson>

View changes: <http://localhost/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Samwilson&oldid=prev&diff=7394>

--

To control which emails we send you, check your preferences:
https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo

Which obviously shouldn't have localhost URLs. :-)

Samwilson (talk) 02:56, 14 June 2014 (BST)

Joyful. I guess we don't have a major MediaWiki setting set. I'll take a look later. John (talk) 07:30, 14 June 2014 (BST)

Tracked on github. — ReviComplaint? 12:45, 14 June 2014 (BST)

Thanks! :) Samwilson (talk) 02:15, 15 June 2014 (BST)

127.0.0.1

Sorry. I forgot about the sysadmins. I was thinking from external point of view.—cyberpower ChatOnline 13:34, 14 June 2014 (BST)

Barnstar

Thank you very much for all your work!

I'd like to give you a barnstar for all the work you do here on Orain and elsewhere! Southparkfan (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2014 (BST)

Thanks John (talk) 19:58, 22 June 2014 (BST)

Image glitch followup

A while ago I reported a glitch involving images on Orain, but I'm still having the problem on my wiki a month later. I don't mean to sound rude or impatient, but how is progress on fixing this coming along? --Chill57181 (talk) 02:11, 1 July 2014 (BST)

CreateWiki founder issues

It seems it doesn't care whether the account is globally created or not. I did a test: (Logboek nieuwe wiki's); 02:25 . . Southparkfan (Overleg | bijdragen) created the wiki "southparkfanwiki" with "Southparkfan" as founder ‎(Testing if founder-error occurs on own-created wiki) and I got the same founder error. Southparkfan (talk) 01:33, 6 July 2014 (BST)

I'll look in the logs when I get back then. John (talk) 08:50, 6 July 2014 (BST)
Until this issue is solved, someone should get access to createLocalAccount.php and a $wgAddGroups hack for userrights-interwiki I think. Southparkfan (talk) 13:03, 6 July 2014 (BST)
The issue is it can create the account with the maintenance script before the wiki is loaded. And a addgroup hack for userright interwiki requires modification to MediaWiki itself, modifications I don't want to make. John (talk) 13:31, 6 July 2014 (BST)
Hm, strange. Something like a delay or whatever should be enabled Southparkfan (talk) 13:41, 6 July 2014 (BST)
It's the way Orain is set up really. I'm going to work on an 'enable-able' hack for CreateWiki to overcome this which will be enabled on Orain but disable in the extension. John (talk) 13:43, 6 July 2014 (BST)

Delete Techwritewiki

(Logboek nieuwe wiki's); 21:36 . . Southparkfan (Overleg | bijdragen) maakte de wiki "Techwritewiki" aan met "Mikmik" als oprichter ‎(Wiki created per request of Mikmik) had an uppercase letter in error. Please delete the database. Southparkfan (talk) 20:37, 7 July 2014 (BST)

And please create User:Mikmik on the wiki (and migrate it ofc) and assign it's rights :) Southparkfan (talk) 20:39, 7 July 2014 (BST)
mysql -p -e "drop database Techwritewiki" John (talk) 15:46, 8 July 2014 (BST)

Image glitch followup

A while ago I reported a glitch involving images on Orain, but I'm still having the problem on my wiki a month later. I don't mean to sound rude or impatient, but how is progress on fixing this coming along? --Chill57181 (talk) 18:35, 8 July 2014 (BST)

We've investigated and can't seem to find any cause of the issues. Images seems to be working fine for me on my end now. John (talk) 18:36, 8 July 2014 (BST)
 Fixed. Apply the fix to the servers now. John (talk) 16:22, 21 July 2014 (BST)

Error

  • Hi,my wiki worldnews.orain.org 開不出來,How can I do?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:43, 14 July 2014 (BST)
What do you mean? How to edit, create pages, etc? Southparkfan (talk) 14:44, 14 July 2014 (BST)
I do not come out open wiki yeah, tell me how to do?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:46, 14 July 2014 (BST)
I can little English .--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:46, 14 July 2014 (BST)
At https://worldnews.orain.org/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81, use the search function at the right side (http://gyazo.com/9b10f5914c949667acf0ce8dd99e5fa3), at the top. If you want to create a page called "test", type there just "test". That page doesn't exists yet, so you read "於此wiki建立這個頁面「Test」!請參見已發現之0條搜尋結果。". Click on "test" there. Put in the big box some content, and click on "儲存頁面". Hope I helped you :). Southparkfan (talk) 14:50, 14 July 2014 (BST)
  • I just hope I come out of it open wiki.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2014 (BST)
  • So,what this?how should I open my wiki?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:54, 14 July 2014 (BST)
Your wiki is available at worldnews.orain.org. Southparkfan (talk) 14:55, 14 July 2014 (BST)

Rename db/wiki

I guess https://tech.orain.org/wiki/Renaming_a_database and https://tech.orain.org/wiki/Rename_wiki are the same. Can you merge them? Southparkfan (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2014 (BST)

Separate for a reason. The first is specific to a single database while the latter is for renaming an existing wiki which is referenced from other databases. While the same in theory; the latter contains some SQL code I want to keep aspartame to reduce confusion. John (talk) 14:55, 14 July 2014 (BST)

Problème avec un wiki

Bonjour john, J'ai fais une demande de wiki,mais il n'a pas été créer. Pourriez vous le créer ?

--Bastenbas (talk) 18:16, 28 July 2014 (BST)

 Done - Sorry for the delay. Let us know if you need something. Southparkfan (talk) 18:23, 28 July 2014 (BST)

Wiki creation

I just got another founder error. I did what the list said and waited less than a minute before creating the wiki. There has to be some trick that I'm missing. I there a way I can create a practice wiki until I figure it out? Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:18, 3 August 2014 (BST)

The wording is probably not the best. It means wait until the minute rolls over. Here you added it to the list at :15, you need to wait until :16 to create the wiki. John (talk) 19:19, 3 August 2014 (BST)

Protective programs

I was talking to Arcane about developing useful programs that could be used to monitor and address vandals or various other weirdos.

We were discussing this one script and he asked if there was a way that I could make it beneficial for Orain. He said there were some issues with people from WMF trying to cause trouble because of problems there.

This one checks for certain trigger words in discussions that could indicate harassment or some other improper activities.

https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/saloon_bar.py

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:23, 7 August 2014 (BST)

Given how a few idiots from WMF projects who were banned or otherwise disciplined there by some staff here refused to accept this and tried to start nonsense here, LS has retooled a python script that will act as a tripwire for whenever certain things are mentioned in a post about a certain user, which should be useful in keeping track of death threats or threats of bodily or other sorts of harm as well as libel or other criminal mischief. It can also be used to detect patterns of vandalism so it can be dealt with more efficiently. Arcane (talk) 21:28, 7 August 2014 (BST)
I think a global sysop bot would be better for dealing with vandalism. This script could probably detect obscenities used in vandalism, but would be more useful for detecting hostile talk. A web crawler for talk pages would be better for WMF. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:36, 7 August 2014 (BST)
I've got a program here: https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/WMF_scan.py Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:25, 7 August 2014 (BST)
I oppose to GSBot. Its false positive will be pain in the ass. — ReviComplaint? 11:10, 8 August 2014 (BST)
We can just use the scanners then. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2014 (BST)
Just writing here I have acknowledge the comments here. I will get around to writing a response later tonight to tomorrow. John (talk)
I've got a crawler here:
https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/wiki_crawler.py
Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 00:06, 10 August 2014 (BST)
I currently do not see a need for anything like this. John (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2014 (BST)

Abuse!

Hi John! I heard that some abuse has been done here lately. Could you investigate? --Stryn (talk) 21:15, 8 August 2014 (BST)

Ha :p John (talk) 21:16, 8 August 2014 (BST)

Seems to be getting heavily ignored

Request_features#Encyclopedia_Muricana

DondreKhan was the only admin there. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 20:48, 13 August 2014 (BST)

Your request needs to be moved to the appropriate section and will be acted on then. Dusti*Let's talk!* 20:53, 13 August 2014 (BST)
Thank you Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 20:58, 13 August 2014 (BST)
I want that page really only to be used for wikis after creation when there are no active crats or advanced permissions/removal John (talk) 20:59, 13 August 2014 (BST)
The wiki was already created - there isn't an active crat - so that's the place that the request should have gone. Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:08, 13 August 2014 (BST)
Meh hardly an active wiki so technical details :p John (talk) 22:20, 13 August 2014 (BST)
Yeah, refusing to do sth because it wasn't filed in the right place is bad for Orain. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:50, 13 August 2014 (BST)

Encyclopedia Muricana

Could you please add the domain encyclopediamuricana.us to the wiki? Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:29, 13 August 2014 (BST)

Ask Revi or Southparkfan. Unable to commit now and this is the least of my priorities until next Friday. John (talk) 22:21, 13 August 2014 (BST)
Tracked on GitHub. — ReviComplaint? 14:33, 14 August 2014 (BST)

A pie for you!

Thank you for merging the files for the domain. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 23:31, 7 September 2014 (BST)

Requested features

Hello,

Can you help me about that Ejderha Nefesi

Thank you.

I'll ask others on IRC to take a look. I'm currently busy working on a few longer term issues so am unable to do any of this work really for now. John (talk) 14:54, 10 September 2014 (BST)

Importing from Hungarian Wikipedia

Hi,

How can I import exported pages in xml format from Hungarian Wikipedia?

On page https://szk.orain.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1lis:Lapok_import%C3%A1l%C3%A1sa I cannot see xml option.

Thanks,

--Lalo5555 (talk) 14:56, 11 October 2014 (BST)

A steward can assign you temp/perm import rights at your wiki, please comment if you want that. Southparkfan (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2014 (BST)
Yes, I would like that, mostly the permanent right. Thanks,
--Lalo5555 (talk) 15:14, 11 October 2014 (BST)
Done for a week. We don't give it out permanently because of the technical effects an inappropriate import could result in. John (talk) 15:18, 11 October 2014 (BST)
Thanks. --Lalo5555 (talk) 21:43, 11 October 2014 (BST)