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Cannot create account, great service!

Hi Dusti, I cannot create an account. Please reply to my email address (as this is a public IP address in my library) j@mywikis.com. Full disclosure: I am MyWikis Staff and I would love to help out on Orain. I can help with tech and community, just ask. Great service I will not beat. :) --Jeff•Talk 22:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Please move

I don't like ShoutWiki a lot, so please move this wiki to Orain? Emilyr25 (talk) 04:20, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Emily! Thanks for sending a message! I'd love to help you with moving Foodopedia to Orain. What I need you to do is create what's called a "Dump" from this page here and you'll get a link that looks like this http://www.shoutwiki.com/dumps/c/co/foodopedia.xml.gz. Let me know when that's done :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 04:59, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I actually just took a quick look - there's really not much on the wiki hosted on ShoutWiki at the moment. Perhaps you'd like to start fresh? Dusti*Let's talk!* 05:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, please, a fresh start. Thanks! But I can't log in because I forgot my password and I have no email address!

I also emailed you back to your question.

Also, when I try to create a dump, it's not working!!! I get an error message! Emilyr25 (talk) 21:22, 12 August 2013‎

Questions about your site service

Hello, I'm Arcane, and I wanted to establish a wiki for testing and displaying MediaWiki extensions, which means I would like the ability to install certain extensions on my created wiki, assuming that is possible. If that level of wiki customization isn't available, I understand. I was also wondering if your wiki needs any new staff members at the moment. I'm an administrator with CheckUser rights on WikiIndex and the creator and administrator of the MediaWiki Beginners Wiki on Shoutwiki, but neither have me too tied down at the moment, so if there is an opening for staff here, I would like to apply. If there is no position available, I understand completely.

In any case, I'm glad to see another wiki farm is available, and I wish your site success. Arcane (talk) 22:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane

Hi Arcane! Thanks for sending me a message. You can definitely request specific extensions to be installed on your wiki. Currently, the only right that are not available to smaller communities is CheckUser as well as Oversight - due to the privacy implications. Stewards are available to do local checkusering and oversight. Should a community grow in size and require a local CheckUser and/or oversighter they may hold local elections. This is always subject to review and reconsideration if a valid request is made to the CheckUsers. Obviously we take experience, knowledge, and understanding of our policies into consideration.
As far as a staff position being open - we're always looking for an extra hand. If you have a chance, join us on Freenode IRC. We're in #orain. Dusti*Let's talk!* 04:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
IRC is preferable, but you can also reach us at help@orain.org. Kudu (talk) 14:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello. If possible, I would like to apply for a staff too. I'm a CU, sysop and bit operator at WikiIndex (sorry, but it's true), autopatrolled, rollbacker and bot operator (though not approved yet) at Wikimedia Commons, and editor in a number of wikis with dozens of edits. I'm also a regular IRC user (sorry for never been in yours). It would be great to work with you. I could also work with Abuse Filter and templates (most that looks like a developer's job). BTW, thanks for opening a no-ads wiki farm, I love it (though a little slow IMHO), and hope you success. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

A fix for some display anomalies for the Monaco skin

The Monaco skin doesn't play nice with the WikiEditor, which results in some display anomalies, such as a black line atop the main toolbar and it causes the search and replace button to bleed off the screen to the right.

Thankfully, I came up with a fix I implemented on my own wiki to solve the problem: 

/* My fixes for display errors with the WikiEditor extension */
/* By Arcane (known as Arcane 21 on Wikimedia websites) */
/* Add these lines at the end of monobook_modified.css file in the styles/css folder of the Monaco skin  */

.toolbar {
    border-top-style: none!important;
    border-top-width: 1px;
    padding: 0px 0px !important;
}

/* Expandable Sections */
.wikiEditor-ui-toolbar .sections {
	width: 98%!important;
}

Also, the buttons of the Monaco skin don't work properly with the Search and Replace menu, which will cause some display errors with the text not syncing properly with the buttons.

If you want to fix this the quick and dirty way, find the buttons.css file in the styles/css folder of the Monaco and erase everything in the file (don't delete the file itself). This will revert the buttons to use the monobook/vector look and will correct display anomalies in the search and replace menu.

Alternatively, you could hunt down the css file setting governing the button and text size and retain the Monaco button look, but the above is quick and dirty fix that I've tested on my own localhost wiki and it works fine for me.

I'd add this to the repository for Orain, but I suck at using Github, so please forward this information to your tech staff if need be.

Let me know if you guys need any further help. Arcane (talk) 00:01, 19 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane

The Monaco theme is supposed to have the button look to keep things consistent. --24.178.138.107 00:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to add (in response to the above comment) that while the Monaco skin will lack most of the large rounded buttons if you use my quick and dirty fix, all other elements of the skin should function normally and look fine (just with the classic Vector/Monobook dull squared appearance). If you still want to keep the Monaco buttons as they are, the text height of the button text needs to have a lowered pixel value (the default is too high) to work properly with the Search And Replace box added by the WikiEditor extension. I don't remember what exact value needs to be changed, but that will need to be fixed if you want to keep the Monaco button schema as it originally was. Arcane (talk) 00:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane
Wanted to add something: I noticed your Monaco skin sidebar doesn't have all the options available on the other skin sidebars. If you want to fix this, you just need to add the appropriate information to MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar. I don't have administrator rights, or I would be willing to do the legwork myself. If not, I just thought this information would be of use to you. Arcane (talk) 01:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane
I goofed and posted this on Timeshifter's page when I should have posted it to yours:


The Monaco skin used on Orain is the same port created by Dantman from Wikia, and it has some issues with WikiEditor. I have written a page on my wiki detailing these issues and fixes that can be implemented to solve several CSS errors and edit window issues, which can be found here.
I have also released my own modified fork of Monaco that corrects many of the problems with Monaco, but has the buttons default to the Monobook/Vector look as opposed to using the buttons the original port had used from Wikia.
You can find it here:
https://github.com/Arcane21/monaco-port
I'm still a novice at using Github, so I not sure I am competent enough to add these changes to the Orain core, but you may wish to look over this information and see if the rest of the more technically competent members of the Orain staff would either like to use my fixes for the Monaco port or use my modified version on Orain, as either would fix any issues with using the WikiEditor extension.
I would recommend the changes (if any) be implemented globally. They will not affect any wiki where WikiEditor is not installed, as the fixes are mostly CSS tweaks to fix issues with that extension, should it ever be installed on any wiki.
Arcane (talk) 17:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane
The above message in italics was meant for you or the rest of the Orain staff to look over when you got back (before I forget, welcome back ^_^), and I seriously implore you and the rest of the Orain staff to either use my modified port of the Monaco skin, or the notes on fixing the Monaco skin here, since even when not using the Wiki Editor, there are display errors, as you can see in this screenshot. The display problems are visible on all Orain wikis using the Monaco skin, and the fixes I have linked to can be quickly implemented with a few edits and should solve all issues with the Monaco skin. Arcane (talk) 21:34, 19 September 2013 (UTC)Arcane

Cantonese Wikivoyage

1. I request to change the language to Cantonese
2. Why the title of the wiki is "Unconfigured"?
Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll get both taken care of when a sysadmin comes online to make the changes :) The wiki name is automatically "Unconfigured" due to the script. I'll check to see if we can get that fixed as well :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 07:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Done! Addshore (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

hi

Thanks for making my wiki so quickly :D--Tyreek (talk) 23:09, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem! I just noticed you've logged in locally so you're account has been created there. I'll get your flags after this saves :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 23:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
So many nice staff people, hope this does not end up like Wikia :3 or wikkii--Tyreek (talk) 23:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Never :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 23:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
EPIC :O--Tyreek (talk) 23:25, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Just something I thought would be useful, check on my wiki from time to time if you agree

I plan to find as many gadgets and user scripts that would be helpful to MediaWiki users and add pages on them as well as enable them so they can be used and tested in a live environment (i.e. - my testing wiki).

As far as Orain is concerned, that means that anything you see on the MediaWiki Gadgets page on my wiki has been proven, tested, and will come with technical information about any bugs, glitches, or settings needed for optimal use, and has been verified as functional on both my offsite localhost testing wiki and here on Orain.

I also plan to add a section for user scripts (which includes javascript snippets, CSS style sheets, etc.) with a similar purpose.

Unlike the Test Wiki, I plan to also include live testing areas for extensions not included on the Test Wiki, and since I like testing bleeding edge code and invite anyone to share their contributions, I would be delighted to offer my wiki as a testbed for bleeding edge Orain specific extensions, custom skins, and so on if the need arises.

Also, while I imported Twinkle from Wikipedia to Orain Meta, I don't believe it is functional, and though I have yet to do any extensive testing on it, I'll give you a heads up if I get it to work. Arcane (talk) 02:42, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane

Did some checking, and Twinkle would need to be custom ported for use on another wiki as further detailed here. I had trouble cloning how it was done on Wikipedia verbatim, and it might be better to make our own version of the gadget or something similar. I have an idea or two about how to do this, will get back to you once I have something workable. Arcane (talk) 11:32, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane

You have been granted admin/'crat on BotWiki

Hi Dusti, as per my original request, I have now granted you Administrator and Bureaucrat rights on BotWiki. I hope that the BotWiki will eventually become "the place to be" for anything to do with running bots on Orain wikis, whether on a local wiki or globally. AugurNZ ✐⌕ 00:59, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

How would I transclude the Orain wiki logo on my wiki

I wanted to include a small picture of the Orain Meta wiki logo on the tab I have on my front page for "Sister Wikis" (wikis that are cooperating in conjunction with my own in some way), but I'm not able to transclude the Orain.png file correctly.

What should I do to fix this? Arcane (talk) 01:45, 30 August 2013 (UTC)Arcane

We're actually tweaking the Special:Interwiki extension now :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:02, 31 August 2013 (EDT)

Wiki made private

Hello Dusti, thanks for creating the SACwiki on my request. Could you please clarify something for me – what does exactly 'private' mean for a wiki here, 'personal' and 'public' being the other two options? When I requested for the SACwiki to be created, I hoped that only those I authorize would be able not only to edit it, but also to view it. However, this newly created wiki can apparently be both edited and viewed by strangers. Is there a way on orain.org to create a wiki with limited editing and viewing access? Regards, --SAC SEC (talk) 17:15, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello! We're actually working on that now :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 20:15, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
Alrighty - I believe we've gotten it fixed and taken care of. You now have to be logged in and have the "member" right to view pages. Bureaucrats and Administrators are able to grant and revoke that right. Creating an account is not restricted, as we use single sign on, however, the read restriction is what's made your wiki private. Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:00, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
Thanks. I think we are experiencing a problem creating new users at the moment, so I cannot have a test run to see if the restrictions work the way they're supposed to. Regards, --SAC SEC (talk) 22:47, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
I've tested the restrictions myself, and they appear to be solid. What issue are you have with creating accounts? I just created one to ensure that account creation is still working. Dusti*Let's talk!* 23:51, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
Random assigning of passwords returns an error message, blaming a PHP glitch, for one thing. Also, I created three test users: SAC01, 01SAC, and SACmem01, and even though they show up as created, none of them can be logged in, with an error message: "Login error. There is no user by the name "SACmem01". Usernames are case sensitive. Check your spelling." Regards, --SAC SEC (talk) 00:58, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
UPDATE: Trying to log in with any of these three user names on meta.orain.org returns an error "Incorrect password" and, when trying to reset the password, reports: "The username SACmem01 is not registered on this wiki, but it does exist in the unified login system." That's what it's up to now. Regards, --SAC SEC (talk) 01:10, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
I believe Kudu has taken a look into this and the issue appears to be fixed. I had it happen to me when trying to create an account while logged in. I just tried and had to attempt to do it twice as my session expired and I needed to log back in, however, I was able to create an account and have a random password sent by email on both here and SACwiki. Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:24, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
Thank you, it seems to be working fine now. Could you please delete all those test users, including those created by me (SAC01, 01SAC, and SACmem01)? Regards, --SAC SEC (talk) 23:37, 1 September 2013 (EDT)
Because of Mediawiki(Software runs this wiki) doesn't provide account delete, anyone cannot delete account. 레비ReviDiscussWMF wikis 02:20, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

All right. Can we change their names then? --SAC SEC (talk) 02:34, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

That's easy enough, what would you like them changed to? Dusti*Let's talk!* 03:38, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
Thanks. Can I do it myself? Regards, --SAC SEC (talk) 04:09, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
Because we have single sign on globally, Special:RenameUser is restricted to stewards as it affects global accounts. Dusti*Let's talk!* 04:17, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
I see. Can you then please rename 01SAC to SAC02 and SACmem01 to SAC03? Thanks. --SAC SEC (talk) 04:22, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
Done. John (talk) 04:27, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
Thanks. --SAC SEC (talk) 04:39, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

Dusti, would it be possible to enable file upload in SACWiki? Many thanks. SAC SEC (talk) 19:01, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, there is a glitch with saving sections of the page -- they save but occasionally go blank. Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 19:33, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Another thing is, could you please unhide and unblock user accounts SAC02 and SAC03. We're using them now. Many thanks. Regards, SAC SEC (talk) 06:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Onlinica.orain.org local uploads

We would like local uploads on onlinica.orain.org please.--Tyreek (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Can you help me?

Can you help me recruit new community members for my wiki and increase its popularity!? Thanks -- Emilyr25 (talk) 03:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Editnotices

Hi Dusti, welcome back (well, almost back, teeheehee). Did you notice that your notice isn't working? Neither does mine. They're not working on any of the sub-wikis either. Would be great to get this working at some time. AugurNZ ✐⌕ 19:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Help for extensions and administartion rights

Dear Dusti..

Thank you for aprooving the wiki pateres.orain.org

I have some questions and if you do not mind, please answer me.

1) I need for the wiki to control, create users and gives rights to users to edit or view pages. maybe i need an account as administrator?

2) I have already a nearly similar wiki in the address http://gymnasioker4.referata.com

which works using the list of the extensions that are presented to this link (http://www.referata.com/wiki/Special:Version)

may i ask you which of them you can install for me? (do not yet install them, just tell me which you can, i will inform you when to do that)

This would be really helpfull in order to know how to build the wiki in orain.

Thank you

I have given you administrator and bureaucrat rights. For now, no comment from me for the extensions. I will get someone else to take a look for you. John (talk) 14:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Just thought I might drop a link to a relevant discussion about the Semantic Bundle as I see that it may be relevant here. AugurNZ ✐⌕ 17:05, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

GammaWiki creation request

Hello Dusti. I wonder if you could review my GammaWiki creation request at your earliest convenience. Many thanks. - ABloom (talk) 07:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Becoming an admin

Thank you for making Sturmkrieg. Will you make me an admin on there now? How do I change the wiki logo? Sturmkrieger (talk) 15:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done John (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Sturmkrieger

You should be aware of what he has been doing! He has been constantly trolling people and causing trouble.

http://www.sturmkrieg.ru/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80

Dondrekhan (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I understand it can be frustrating, however, an individuals actions outside of Orain don't have an impact on what happens here. Should there be problematic behavior here, we'll certainly deal with it. Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:07, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
For the record, making edits like this is not tolerated. Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Wiki default skin

Hello! First of all, thank you for creating my wiki for me!

I was wondering, is there a way to set a default skin for all users who visit my wiki?

Lisa Malins (talk) 23:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lisa! I see you've already made a request on the Request features page - I'll leave it to them to make those changes for you! :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 14:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Haha, yeah, I'm slowly figuring out where I'm actually supposed to post things! Thanks again!
BTW, I thought I should mention, when I happened to be on the wiki using a Mac, I noticed your signature didn't display the same way as it does on Windows. I don't know much about fonts on Macs, but may I suggest Apple Casual as a secondary font for your sig? That way it'll display mostly the same on both operating systems :) Lisa Malins (talk) 04:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

photo

This is because uploads have not been enabled. John (talk) 17:33, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 Upload enabled to solve problem -- Joe G. (Talk) 21:06, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
  • 我了解了，謝謝。--Msnhinet8 (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Mathematical notation

Hi, just created a wiki here. Was wondering if you know if it's possible to add mathematical notation? I know Wikipedia allows this, but maybe there's some way to enable it on Orain wikis?

Hi there, please request this feature on this page. Thank you! -- Joe G. (Talk) 21:47, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Temporary global unblock

Hello may you please temporarily unblock an IP address. Story here: https://encyclopedianational.orain.org/wiki/User_talk:83.117.225.181
--Tyreek (talk) 00:38, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

IP was never globally blocked. The respective account was locked only. Also, if you could come to my talk page with matters relating to things I have acted in future since I know more about this than Dusti, I'll appreciate it. Thanks, John (talk) 12:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Ok.--Tyreek (talk) 14:15, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Requests

As I have not gotten a response elsewhere, I will post these here for you to read.

  • The blank PigaLore is not that useful to me yet, as I would like to merge in old data from this host http://pigasoftware.a.wiki-site.com/. From there I can get myself back up and running.
  • You can use Special:Import to import all of your old content.
  • I have however begun setting up the MWM Wiki, but lack file upload ability - why is this so? Also, I would like to know what file types you are set up to accept. On Tropical Wikis I had it arranged so I could upload JPEG, PNG, GIF, SVG, MIDI, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC, and would really like to have this ability on my new wiki.
  • I've enabled upload
  • Finally, I am wondering if you can create a way to link between my wikis as I also had on Tropical Wikis? E.g. something like piga:Article or mwm:Article.
  • That is something that you can request. mwm:Article is likely the best option. I'll ping this on the Request features page. Dusti*Let's talk!* 16:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Technopeasant (talk) 23:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I also need file upload ability on PigaLore as well. Also, I need to be able to delete or move pages on both wikis. Technopeasant (talk) 06:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
I see that User:Cyberpower678 changed my user rights, so thanks for that. Still need upload ability on PigaLore... Also, just to ensure this does not slip through, here is another problem. Well, we should get there eventually... Technopeasant (talk) 03:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Still waiting on upload for PigaLore... Technopeasant (talk)

User rights

Hello Dusti, i'm not an administrator and bureaucrat of my wiki? Can this be changed? Greetings from Germany. :-)--European Networks (talk) 12:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Problem with Rational Wiki

https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_wikis#Rational_Wiki_.28Status:_Created.29

Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 00:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Community Wiki

How come you haven't created it yet? Is it going to get created soon? Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 19:33, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I have declined this wiki request. Dusti (or any other steward, rather): If you wish to overturn this, please email me so we can discuss my rationale in more detail first (if the reason I listed wasn't clear enough). Thanks! -- Joe G. (Talk) 01:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Recent Orain Updates

Greetings all,

A lot has happened quite recently (I mean a lot), for those not actively involved in our IRC channel (#orain on freenode), here is a brief update of what has happened recently.

  • Upgrades
    • Orain updated to the latest stable release of MediaWiki, 1.23.
    • All extensions which have updates for 1.23 have also been updated.
    • We've moved over to MediaWiki 1.23's json style for i18n.
  • Downtimes
    • We have experienced a few downtimes over the past month. These include service failures (10 minutes in total), upgrade issues (5 minutes total) and issues with our host (15 hours).
    • We have looked into all downtimes and put into place methods we can use to prevent these reoccurring again.
  • New Stuff
    • After a few downtimes, we introduced Nagios to our infrastructure. Nagios can be viewed by any user on prod1.
    • We also introduced an IRC RC bot. All RC feeds on public Orain wikis are now sent to #Orain-feed on JDNet (irc.jasperswebsite.com). Users can join the channel manually as well as introducing bots to the channel.
    • We now have a twitter account! Follow us

We know the past two months have been rough with a few matters which have been occurring internally with our staff but we are working to resolve all issues which we are aware of as soon as possible. I thank you for your patience and I hope we can continue to work together to build an awesome wiki farm! Also, Orain will be 1 year old on July 12th 2014.

Thanks, on behalf of all Orain staff, John (talk) 21:21, 12 June 2014 (BST)

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Welcome back

Welcome back Dusti!--Tyreek (talk) 19:50, 16 July 2014 (BST)

Inactive wikis

I should give a list of wikis who exist a) longer than 60 days b) do not have edits in the last 30 days. Is that correct? :) Southparkfan (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2014 (BST)

For closing yes; for deletion - no edits ever. John (talk) 16:57, 24 July 2014 (BST)

Userrights

As John said on rights log, please remember to remove your temporary rights after you used it. — ReviComplaint? 10:34, 29 July 2014 (BST)

Hi Revi - I've actually spoken to John and asked him to poke me next time. I actually wasn't done doing what needed to be done - I was in a different tab comparing the information with other resources that I have access to on other wikis. Thank you. Dusti*Let's talk!* 15:05, 29 July 2014 (BST)

Nazis Exposed

Thanks for the account create. Could I please get full admin/bureaucrat on the wiki? Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:46, 31 July 2014 (BST)

I'm unable to log in. Can you please send a password to spavelovich at lexipedium.org? Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:48, 31 July 2014 (BST) Apparently the server isn't sending email. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:49, 31 July 2014 (BST)

It is not. Do you still need a password, if so tell me after you have tried to merge your account and I will manually set a password. John (talk) 00:07, 1 August 2014 (BST)
I need a password for Nazis Exposed. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 03:25, 1 August 2014 (BST)
Have you tried to merge the accounts globally yet? John (talk) 09:32, 1 August 2014 (BST)
Yeah. Lieutenant S. (talk) 15:31, 1 August 2014 (BST)

Orain Site Update #1

This can be called the official first monthly site update hence the #1 so; let's get on to what has happened during the month of July!

Technical

During July, Orain added two new servers to the cluster, there were two incidents and one long term fix.

  • prod5 was added as an additional webserver which we plan to use to help distribute the load of web requests and as a fail-over so if prod4 fails, we can continue to provide you all with your wikis.
  • prod6 was added and is still in the setting up stage. It is planned to take over the role of prod1, a server we are planning to decommission eventually.
  • We had a small security issue regarding ElasticSearch on our prod3 server. No unauthorized access to the data stored on the server was seen and the server has since been made more secure. As a security precaution, ElasticSearch was removed from the cluster and wikis were defaulted back to MediaWiki search.
  • From July 30th to August 1st; there were issues with out going MediaWiki mail. This has since been resolved however incoming mail to all @orain.org addresses are still not functioning as of August 3rd.
  • A long-term issue with images was resolved on July 15th.
New Features
  • A wikicreator group was added to metawiki so community users can handle new wiki requests which is one step into delegating new roles and responsibilities to the community. Wikicreators are chosen by system administrators using their discretion.
  • Cyberpower678's tool was given access to some database tables on public wikis. As a result the UserAnalysis tool works on all public Orain wikis.
  • UrlShortener was enabled on all Orain wikis to allow shorter URLs to be used. Currently URLs follow the form of 'https://$database.orain.org/o/$id'. If wikis want to use a shorten URL of their choice; please make a request to the system administrators.
  • Private wikis may now (on request) use image authorization for their wikis. This means images are made web-inaccessible as to preserve the security of images uploads while still being accessed by users with 'read' access to your wiki.
  • Orain now allows the use of OAuth. Please see the OAuth page on MediaWiki for more details. OAuth requests can be made on any wiki and will be approved by a system administrator on metawiki.

On behalf of the Orain staff, John 17:35, 3 August 2014 (BST)

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Welcome back

Welcome back to activity. :D--Tyreek (talk) 17:14, 8 August 2014 (BST)

admin

  • When the administrative staff orain I can do?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2014 (BST)
  • Wiki is to help people apply for administrative staff.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:12, 10 August 2014 (BST)
您好！如果您在试用管理员工具正在位数的，请TestWiki https://test.orain.org Dusti*Let's talk!* 18:55, 10 August 2014 (BST)
  • 您好!我不是想試用管理員工具而是想成為本站的行政員，請問您可以讓我當行政員嗎?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 22:35, 10 August 2014 (BST)
目前还没有一个需要更多的管理员，但您可以通过在地区的积极协助，如要求的功能，并检查其他网站进行恶意破坏成为一体。当你表明你有一个需要成为管理员的人很可能会提名你，或者你可以要求的权利。我建议检查出TestWiki就像我之前说的获得这些工具的了解。你有像维基百科或维基媒体项目现场管理经验吗？Dusti*Let's talk!* 23:00, 10 August 2014 (BST)
  • 有，我現在是wikia中文的管理員。--Msnhinet8 (talk) 23:04, 10 August 2014 (BST)
询问有关TestWiki权利，告诉我，你知道如何使用这些工具，并帮助在这里的多彩，我会更高兴。我们需要管理员谁是在不同的时区和讲英语以外的语言:)
  • 當一個管理員或是行政員通常必須處理破壞者所破壞的頁面，如果破壞者屢勸不聽就封禁他，我來自台灣，我們的語言是繁體中文，使用UTC+8時區。--Msnhinet8 (talk) 23:11, 10 August 2014 (BST)

Comment to Arcane

I noticed that you removed a comment that I made. I did not realize that it was not one that was acceptable; I avoided mentioning any specific people so as to intentionally avoid any harassment toward a specific person. I'm going to lock the linked thread from that post. So as to prevent it from being bumped. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2014 (BST)

Check your email - explanation was sent there. The end all be all is I do not want that topic, or that specific wiki being discussed on Orain - as it's not something that we would host and in my opinion the general nature of what's being discussed is inappropriate for this site. Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:18, 12 August 2014 (BST)
I didn't get an email but fair enough. I don't even really want to be reminded of them anyway. I just used the wiki as an example for testing the crawler. I could use such a crawler to help the staff monitor activity on wikis. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 20:47, 12 August 2014 (BST)
The email was sent to your sturmkrieg.de email account. Dusti*Let's talk!* 20:50, 12 August 2014 (BST)
OK. I saw. I haven't really been checking any more. Pretty sure the DB must have been reverted or sth because I definitely set lexipedium.org before. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:46, 12 August 2014 (BST)

A kitten for you!

You were very punctual in assisting with that issue involving the rogue AbuseFilter.

Here's a cute kitten as a token of my appreciation.

GethN7 (talk) 04:16, 16 August 2014 (BST)

And very punctual to cause an emergency issues when I said don't. I support this appreciation :) John (talk) 14:17, 16 August 2014 (BST)

poserdazfreebieswiki

Hello! You created poserdazfreebies for me earlier today. I forgot to ask in the request: could editing of the wiki be restricted to logged-in users only, please? --Robkelk (talk) 02:58, 26 August 2014 (BST)

Hello again! It appears I don't have all my permissions yet. Clicking on "User rights management" on poserdazfreebies gives me the error message "You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason: You do not have permission to add or remove user rights." --Robkelk (talk) 12:47, 26 August 2014 (BST)

Hello there! I have granted you Bureaucrat and Administrator status on your wiki, however in order to complete your other request, I need a bit more information. Would you like just editing restricted to logged-in users, or editing and viewing restricted to logged-in users? We can do either, but depending on which one you want, it has to get assigned to a different department. Thanks! -- Joe G. (Talk) 15:35, 26 August 2014 (BST)
Thank you for the rights upgrade. As for the other request, I'd like just editing restricted to logged-in users only - viewing should remain allowed to everyone. --Robkelk (talk) 00:49, 27 August 2014 (BST)
 Done John (talk) 03:39, 27 August 2014 (BST)

Problème

Bonjour,

J'ai fait une demande de wiki, il a été créé, mais je n'ai pas les droits d'administrateur dessus.

Pourriez vous me les donner ?

--Bastenbas (talk) 10:44, 26 August 2014 (BST)

Je suis désolé. Il y avait un problème quand il a été créé et les droits appropriés ont été pas donné. J'ai fixe. Merci y Bonne journée. Dusti*Let's talk!* 18:41, 26 August 2014 (BST)
Aussi, pourrais tu changer la langue par défaut du wiki et la mettre en français ? --Bastenbas (talk) 10:39, 27 August 2014 (BST)
Done. Dusti*Let's talk!* 16:28, 27 August 2014 (BST)

Irc wiki

May I have Flags on the irc wiki here in orain Agent Isai (talk) 17:16, 6 September 2014 (BST)

Go ahead and make your request here (just to document what's beendone) and I'll get it taken care of for you right away. Dusti*Let's talk!* 17:17, 6 September 2014 (BST)

May I get Bureaucrat and Admin rights on the irc wiki? Agent Isai (talk) 17:38, 6 September 2014 (BST)

Already done locally via this: 17:32, 6 September 2014 Dusti (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Agent Isai from (none) to administrator and bureaucrat (adopting wiki) Dusti*Let's talk!* 17:41, 6 September 2014 (BST)

I am not OK with this, primarily because I was not consulted before it. Please immediately revert this change.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:45, 7 September 2014 (BST)

I want to raise a process issue. Since Jasper Deng was never informed about this adoption and adoption is processed with no delay... I think we should let original wiki owner to talk about their wiki. — ReviComplaint? 02:46, 7 September 2014 (BST)

Our dormancy policy is very clear - the wiki was eligible for adoption. You don't need to be consulted prior to the adoption taking place. It would be unfair to the user who's now adopted the wiki. Consult them and ask for your flags back and contribute to the wiki. I will not be undoing my actions. Dusti*Let's talk!* 02:57, 7 September 2014 (BST)
So you just removed him as an admin from his own wiki? That's not cool. I suggest strongly that this be fixed. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2014 (BST)
No - the adopting user requested that the founders flags be removed - which is out of my hands. I facilitated the adoption. The user has been given guidance as to which avenues to take from here such as contacting the adopting user. Dusti*Let's talk!* 20:50, 7 September 2014 (BST)
It's kind of messed up that people can take over a wiki like that. Not a good policy for Orain. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:27, 7 September 2014 (BST)
The dormancy policy is there for a reason. For wikis that are flagged as duplicated when requested those users are directed to join that local community. If the wiki is dormant (i.e. no edits for a month or longer) that user can "rescue" the wiki by adopting it. I would much rather see a wiki be adopted than deleted. Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:30, 7 September 2014 (BST)
Adoption is a good idea but removing the current admins before adoption is a bad idea. The only time when someone should be able to request removal of bureaucrat status is if they are a founder or the bureaucrat is causing actual problems. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:16, 7 September 2014 (BST)
I dislike the idea of adoption myself really. Editing the wiki then asking for Sysop after make a small local request against 'dictatorship crat' are two different matters. Adoption exists to allow users to dictate not keep it active from what I see. John (talk) 22:18, 7 September 2014 (BST)
I like adoption - however, perhaps it's something where we could explore making changes on. Dusti*Let's talk!* 22:20, 7 September 2014 (BST)
(edit conflict) I really don't think this particular case is up for discussion, guys. Our dormancy policy is very clear that it allows for removing of the current sysops/founder/bureaucrats/whatever upon adoption by another user. It's basically like starting a new wiki under the same domain. Think about it this way: We could delete the original wiki (say at abc.orain.org) and then recreate a blank wiki at abc.orain.org for another user that requested it if the original wiki at abc.orain.org was inactive per the dormancy policy. Instead, we cut out the unnecessary middle step and just reuse the wiki that is already sitting there and give the new user complete control over the project (should they request it) as if they were the original founder. If it were your project, and you were running it, would you want someone who you did not appoint as a sysop or bureaucrat doing things that may not be what you had in mind? No, you likely wouldn't. The decision in this case is going to stand no matter how much it is argued here and I think it is best if the involved parties just accept the fact that policy is policy in this particular case and move on through the appropriate avenues should they wish to pursue their adminship on IRCwiki further. If you would like to suggest changes to the policy, I would invite you to do so on the appropriate noticeboard here on meta. We always welcome ways to improve things. -- Joe G. (Talk) 22:22, 7 September 2014 (BST)

(edit conflict x3) I've reached out to the adopting user and left a message asking if they would allow Jasper to have their flags back to assist with the maintenance of the wiki. Dusti*Let's talk!* 22:24, 7 September 2014 (BST)

Orain Site Update #2

This is an update of all technical changes and issues during the month of August.

Technical Changes
  • prod1 was removed from active maintenance on August 6th and removed from the cluster a week later.
  • Orain migrated from RamNode to DigitalOcean. The work began on August 17th
  • We moved away from Memcached to Redis for session and general caching on all Orain servers.
  • We added prod7 to the cluster during the migration. It is responsible for Redis and static content hosting.
Technical Issues
  • The job queue did not run any job for 4 days as a result of permissions errors with Redis. We have rolled back to using the database for this for now.
  • All wikis experienced database issues shortly after the migration as a result of MariaDB cache taking up excessive disk space. To fix this in the long term, prod5 was recycled as a new database server.
  • For an hour on the 25th of August, users occasionally got caching errors and log in issues as a result of Redis taking up excessive disk space.

On behalf of Orain staff, John (talk) 22:03, 6 September 2014 (BST)

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Requests

Can you look at this : [1] Agent Isai (talk) 01:41, 8 September 2014 (BST)

Requested features

Hello.

I've been waiting for two days to feature request. I don't know who is authorized person about features but you are the most active person here. So, I want to ask you when my request is approved?

Ejderha Nefesi feature request

Sorry for my poor English. Thank you.

Requests

May you please tahttps://meta.orain.org/wiki/Request_features#Isai_Wiki_.28Status:_Open.29e a look at [2]

Thank you! Agent Isai (talk) 21:17, 8 September 2014 (BST)

Hi Again! Can you take a look at this

Agent Isai! Orain Rocks! 00:46, 10 September 2014 (BST)

Creating wikis

Hi Dusti. If you add a wiki on the dblist, please create it after no longer than 60 seconds. Today, you've waited 13 minutes before you created the database. In that 13 minutes, registration & other things are broken. Please remember to wait max 60 seconds ;). Southparkfan (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2014 (BST)

It was delayed because I am at work and I had an impromptu meeting. My apologies. Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:46, 11 September 2014 (BST)

Help needed

Hello Dusti!

First of all thanks for creating my wiki.:) I'm trying to set up stuffs and I would need some help/assist from you. Currently I'm facing two problems, namely:

  • how to upload images, and
  • how to import templates from wikipedia.

Could you please help me where to turn to request rights to make the image upload function available on my wiki? And do you know if it's possible to simply copy-paste well-working templates from wikipedia? Or shall I probably ask for help there?

Thanks in advance, Farmer (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2014 (BST)

You can upload images via the "Special:Upload" page on your wiki now. Southparkfan (talk) 09:47, 14 September 2014 (BST)
Thank you and sorry for the late answer, I've been busy recently. Can I ask if there are any restrictions on what kind of media I can upload? I mean, generally everything appears on orain and related wikis is under CC BY-SA 3.0 license. I think it applies for uploads as well, however, I would like to make it clear before uploading anything. Thanks for your answer! Farmer (talk) 12:49, 27 September 2014 (BST)

A cookie for you!

I found the link with the template. I made a button to make it more obvious for other users. I will be using that from now on. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 06:59, 17 September 2014 (BST)

Question

Bonjour,

Est-il possible de modifier l'icône en haut à gauche de son wiki ?

Merci

--Bastenbas (talk) 10:56, 18 September 2014 (BST)

En fait, j'ai pensé à le faire. Je vais demander à l'un de nos administrateurs système pour prendre un coup d'oeil. @John: Is it possible for a user to custom edit their topicon? Dusti*Let's talk!* 02:48, 19 September 2014 (BST)

J'ai réussi à le faire ici, mais uniquement en incrustant une image dessus. Cela ne marche pas sur les pages de connexion, d'inscription et pages spécial. Le wikitest à aussi changer l'icône sur toute les pages --Bastenbas (talk) 12:14, 19 September 2014 (BST)

J'attends John de me répondre pour voir s'il ya quelque chose que nous pouvons faire de notre côté. Est tout fonctionne bien pour vous?
@Dusti: Perhaps via JS/CSS. Southparkfan (talk) 18:33, 19 September 2014 (BST)
The logo I believe; which you can do Southparkfan. John (talk) 18:34, 19 September 2014 (BST)
I am not sure if the user means the icon next to his/her username or the logo. Southparkfan (talk) 18:35, 19 September 2014 (BST)
The topicon is the smaller logo that appears on the tab for your browser :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 18:39, 19 September 2014 (BST)
You mean the favicon, eh? Idk how to change that, probably via nginx settings. Southparkfan (talk) 18:40, 19 September 2014 (BST)
Favicon, topicon (top icon) - sure :P :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 18:51, 19 September 2014 (BST)
Non, je parle du logo du wiki. --Bastenbas (talk) 17:06, 20 September 2014 (BST)

Wiki creations

Hey Dusti, I would email you but I'm busy. Could you please make sure you actually create wikis if you add them to the database list? :) As per [3] - you didn't create sjrevwiki which really messed up my HHVM testing. Thanks, John (talk) 14:49, 20 September 2014 (BST)

Sorry actually, add wiki to the end of databases.[4] My mistake :) John (talk) 14:51, 20 September 2014 (BST)
My mistake - as you can see I was responding to ten or so requests. Dusti*Let's talk!* 16:35, 20 September 2014 (BST)
Yeah, it's understandable :) John (talk) 16:37, 20 September 2014 (BST)

rtishchevo.orain.org

Hi Dusti! I can not work in my wiki https://rtishchevo.orain.org/wiki/. The Permissions error. Please help. --Sdobnikov (talk) 05:18, 23 September 2014 (BST) ̼ Done Dusti*Let's talk!* 05:25, 23 September 2014 (BST)

  • Thank you very much! --Sdobnikov (talk) 05:29, 23 September 2014 (BST)
    • An error occurs when the page write: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties --Sdobnikov (talk) 08:02, 23 September 2014 (BST)

Importing from Wikispaces

Dear Dusti,

Thank you very much, my wiki is working wery well.

Wikispaces stopped free services, so I'm importing my pages from here.

Can I insert into Orain pages HTML/JS snippets?

--Lalo5555 (talk) 08:07, 25 September 2014 (BST)

I'm not familiar with that process - so let me get another set of eyes here :) @John:, or @Addshore: :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 01:21, 26 September 2014 (BST)

Dear Dusti,

I would like importing templates from Hungarian Wikipedia. Please give me the appropriate rights to do that.

Thanks,

--Lalo5555 (talk) 18:44, 8 October 2014 (BST)

Via pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css on your local wiki, you can edit respectively the CSS and JavaScript settings for your wiki. Southparkfan (talk) 16:01, 9 October 2014 (BST)

Frizzle Fraz

Thank you for all your help! No I did not experience any errors with my new wiki. Tau Ceti (talk) 08:06, 13 October 2014 (BST)

GS use

I recently used gs tools on pigawiki for counterspam, and I want to be sure whether my use is legitimate or not - I nowadays fear when I use GS bit... — ReviComplaint? 16:24, 27 October 2014 (GMT)

That's the point of GS. John (talk) 17:03, 27 October 2014 (GMT)
Revi is feared of losing his global sysop due to Dusti's comment on his talk page. There already were many discussions about this. Southparkfan (talk) 17:10, 27 October 2014 (GMT)
  • sigh* - It was made quite clear what the acceptable use is. So long as you're doing it to fight vandalism or spam, you're fine. Dusti*Let's talk!* 17:29, 27 October 2014 (GMT)

Survey results

Can we get them after >2 months :)? Southparkfan (talk) 10:30, 8 November 2014 (GMT)


WomenInEngineering Wiki

Thanks for sorting out the wiki. It seems that something is still pending. When I follow the URL to https://womeninengineering.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page it says:

MediaWiki internal error.

Exception caught inside exception handler.

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

Feature request

Just courious if anybody is taking a look at the feature requests. --DarkShadow (talk) 13:10, 11 December 2014 (GMT)

Orain's FIRST donation drive!!

As many of you may have seen, Orain has been undergoing some significant changes. To be frank, we've outgrown our current home. With 288 communities, 1,000+ users, and sites like All The Tropes growing daily - we're beginning to look at the long term future of the project. With current funding levels, we can last four more months after we upgrade to some new servers. Our last server change wasn't that long ago, yes, but it was done to improve the overall stability and functionality of the site.

We've launched an Indegogo campaign to raise $5,000 to accomplish a couple of things:

  • We would be able to move to a stable, secure, short to mid term server that has the capability to not only host us now but continue hosting us even if we grow significantly
  • Begin the process of investigating solutions that include us purchasing our own private servers
  • Begin working on expanding our current abilities and addressing some of our limitations
  • Developing some extensions, widgets, and potentially a mobile application to improve the end-user experience
  • .. and finally being reaching out to other mid to large size communities and bring them into the Orain family.

To increase the likelihood of donations we've included some incentives that we'd love to send out including t-shirts, hoodies, blankets, and some new userrights - Donor and VIP which will come with their own individual perks.

We appreciate your generosity and look forward on continuing to offer a fun, free, collaborative community for all to enjoy.

For the staff -- Dusti 08:00, 5 January 2015 (GMT)

My apologies on sending this out again, the first messages had an error

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From the indiegogo page: "we're paying roughly $65-$80 a month for our hosting services. That cost is going to double as we move to accommodate our current community and the amount of traffic that our communities receive."
So, you need $160 a month to handle the bandwidth costs as the number of page hits and wikis increase? Will that get you through the next year for sure without buying equipment? I need some firm numbers to pass on to possible donors. 160 times 12 is $1920. So if I find someone to donate $1920 we are good to go for a year? I actually prefer ads to donation drives due to the fear that donation drives engender in me that another wiki farm is going to have to fold due to lack of funds and volunteers. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:14, 10 January 2015 (GMT)
The cost change will increase after we have brought new equipment but that is basically what it will become likely towards the end of January. John (talk) 14:47, 10 January 2015 (GMT)
Thanks. Are you currently paying to rent other servers and bandwidth? Or do you have some of your own servers? And another question: Is it wise to use your own servers? The number of wikis can grow past what your hardware can handle. Why not pay some big intercontinental hosting company instead, and let them worry about the hardware end, and bandwidth spikes coming from all over the world. --Timeshifter (talk) 15:13, 10 January 2015 (GMT)
Currently we do not rent servers, Orain is ran purely on visualization options. The plan is to buy our own servers which can be physically labelled with Orain and taken where we want without any limits. It is wise to use our own servers as the price of hosting our own servers is less than dedicated servers but we remain full control and are not restricted by technical limitations. The number of wikis can grow past our hardware indeed, which is why we will have emergency fail over plans + procedures to get new hardware online once identified. We have considered the last option however the prices break even (just more for paying others) but we are restricted what their policies on what we can and can't do - most of which, I want to do. John (talk) 15:19, 10 January 2015 (GMT)
To answer your question @Timeshifter: - the funds will secure hosting for at least a year, yes. What our goal with the full amount of funds was to secure hosting for a minimum of a year or more while we investigate our ability to purchase our own servers to lower the overhead cost. Thank you for helping to get some donations for Orain. If you have any questions, @John: and I would be more than happy to answer them. Dusti*Let's talk!* 15:29, 10 January 2015 (GMT)
I hadn't thought of owning servers, combined with a fail over plan for additional servers/visualization/hosts/bandwidth online as needed. I guess it is like owning a house versus renting. If done right, ownership is cheaper. But getting the initial necessary money is a problem. I wonder if Wikimedia is still giving away old servers. Or businesses. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:09, 10 January 2015 (GMT)
Some ideas. I suggest putting a link in the sidebar on all pages: "Donate to Orain". Also link to it from the indiegogo page. That way I and others have a more detailed and updated info page I can point possible donors to. Many donors will have questions. So the talk page can be used for that. This thread might be moved there. For now I guess I can point to your talk page for more info and questions.
I support all wiki farms. They each seem to have different focuses and advantages. I think the donation only path may be difficult for a wiki farm offering different extensions for each wiki as Orain does. That requires more skilled volunteers. I assume it is difficult enough to find a skilled volunteer or two just to maintain a basic wiki farm with a standard set of extensions and features. You might consider offering ad-free wikis only to those making above a certain size yearly donation. That donation might have to be larger depending on the bandwidth needed for that wiki. In any case thanks for all your efforts! --Timeshifter (talk) 12:30, 11 January 2015 (GMT)
I've added a link to the sidebar here, thanks for that. I'm against ad-free wikis only for those who donate yearly. While we maybe will offer a feature to add ads on your wiki to support us, this will never be a requirement, and that if you want a wiki here with no ads, you can have one. Southparkfan (talk) 15:31, 11 January 2015 (GMT)
Thanks for the quick sidebar link to the donations page. I did not know of that page. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:36, 11 January 2015 (GMT)
Can the donation link be added to the sidebar of all Orain wikis? Preferably all at once. --Timeshifter (talk) 15:03, 12 January 2015 (GMT)

SHA-512 committed identity hash

Hi. The long hash number is messing up your user page on my monitor currently set at 1600 x 900. The table and text extend past the edge of my screen. The text for the hash is set in a large text size. Set your screen resolution to 1600 x 900 to see the problem.

One solution might be to put the hash in a collapsed table:

Hash number --
32E9351A1ABFA745207703FFFFAB57476C50C6709E1FFA44E9B4AC99FBAC6E2EFC969EC82C3F24D45410201FA2EF7AEB075C703F8EE99E96F671A09BC11FCBC8

But then the collapse button also goes past the edge of the screen.

An easier solution is to remove the hash from the table altogether: 32E9351A1ABFA745207703FFFFAB57476C50C6709E1FFA44E9B4AC99FBAC6E2EFC969EC82C3F24D45410201FA2EF7AEB075C703F8EE99E96F671A09BC11FCBC8

Then only the hash text extends past the screen edge. This works for all screen sizes. Even on tablets, etc.. --Timeshifter (talk) 07:33, 6 January 2015 (GMT)

Optional ads and social enterprises

I like the idea of optional ads for some wikis. I would like ads on my wiki. That is how I can contribute. I don't have any money right now unfortunately. I found this:

I helped write up some ideas on optional ads in this Wikipedia essay:

I especially like the idea of semi-profit benefit corporations, and social enterprises. This would allow raising money in more ways. --Timeshifter (talk) 07:44, 6 January 2015 (GMT)

Can I ask you for $1?

We're 9 days into our 30 day campaign, and we've raised $537. That's fantastic! The idea of Orain, our message, our purpose - it means something. The belief that there can be a community led, a community ran, and a community funded website that's not ad-driven or profit based works.

Our community has believed in us from the beginning, and I firmly believe that our community will stand by us and continue to support us. It's okay if we don't reach our $5,000 goal. $5,000 was a best case scenario. $1,000 enables us to stay online another year. It enables us to keep looking at alternatives and other ways to stay online and cut costs. $500 halves that time and shortens our research ability. 11% of our goal is better than 0% of our goal.

I've made a pledge from the beginning. I've vowed to never force ads on this community for the purpose of keeping Orain alive. Ads are what separate us from the other farms we compete with. I will give my personal funds before I enable ads by force. Ads are a nuisance that you should have a voice in. We've toyed with and are developing the idea of individual wikis who want ads within their community. Some people can't donate a dollar, and that's okay. That's their way of giving and I'm down for that.

To the backers who have helped so far, Thank you!

If you haven't had a chance to donate so far, please please do. Your $1 will help make a difference in the WikiFarm world. You can help us stay online, free, and ad free.

If you have a little more than a dollar and want an Orain t-shirt, we've got those. We've also got hoodies, coffee cups, and blankets. Most of these things will have to be purchased in bulk so there's likely going to be an online store for the leftover donation drive items once the campaign is over.

As always, I want to hear from you. If you have ideas to help our Indiegogo campaign please send them to me or email me.

With love,
Dustin "Dusti" Muniz
03:01, 14 January 2015 (GMT)

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WikiBanner

I have a new version under development at https://github.com/Pavelovich/WikiBanner Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 04:41, 15 January 2015 (GMT)

You have a new message

Lieutenant_S._Reznov Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 18:58, 15 January 2015 (GMT)

I replied and I also made an offer to help promote Orain and request donations. Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 19:20, 15 January 2015 (GMT)

I made a request for donations on a subreddit with over 33,000 subscribers

https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/2sjqd5/orain_free_wiki_host_needs_donations/ Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 19:55, 15 January 2015 (GMT)

I also made a farm wide notice on RedSec. Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 08:18, 17 January 2015 (GMT)

Abusive blocks

https://right.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User%3AInquisitor_S._Kamenev – right.orain.org is issuing abusive blocks against accounts without contributions. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 21:22, 20 January 2015 (GMT)

Local communities are ran themselves. Stewards do not intervene regarding such actions. Dusti*Let's talk!* 21:26, 20 January 2015 (GMT)

WikiBanner

Arcane was explaining how you wanted a version that has a sidebar section. I have made a new version of it and I could add that feature. I think I tried before and there was a problem when it was empty, but I could have a condition for whether or not to have a sidebar displayed. Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 06:28, 24 January 2015 (GMT)

That would be excellent - keep us updated :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 14:28, 24 January 2015 (GMT)

What is this wiki about?

Eh? Panchira (talk) 19:25, 24 January 2015 (GMT)
It's a wiki farm. You can make a private or community wiki here for free. Tau Ceti (talk) 23:13, 25 January 2015 (GMT)

Public IP blocks

Having them in public logs is privacy compromising. Maybe a bot could be used to oversight them immediately? Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 06:29, 25 January 2015 (GMT)

Unable to oversight global blocks. Dusti*Let's talk!* 06:53, 25 January 2015 (GMT)

User rights blues - bibbia2000

Hello, this issue with logging into the wiki is really bugging me. I've tried everything I can think of, including changing the name of the main page, changing my password, changing the rights on the main page. I still cannot login to my private wiki from the url of the wiki. The only way to access is through orain.meta unified login.

Is there anything you can see or do from your side? Thanks,--Simonpa71 (talk) 08:49, 29 January 2015 (GMT)

I've got the sysadmins looking into it. It seems to be only your wiki that this is happening on. For the meantime I can remove the privacy settings? Dusti*Let's talk!* 15:15, 29 January 2015 (GMT)
I've removed the privacy settings and will try handling it from the backend using userrights instead. Dusti*Let's talk!* 15:17, 29 January 2015 (GMT)
Sure, no problem with the privacy. I can log in now! Wow! Thanks!--Simonpa71 (talk) 21:13, 29 January 2015 (GMT)

Site news for January!

Hi there! It's been a wild ride over the last few days!!

We went from being dead in a couple of months to being certain of the next couple years to come! We're sitting at $2,100 in our Indiegogo fundraiser, just shy of 50% of our goal. Those of you who have contributed to the cause, I cannot tell you how blessed I feel. To know that the project I helped Kudu create a couple years ago is providing a service that is helping and impacting others makes me feel great.

If there's anything else you're able to give, it'd be greatly appreciated. We don't receive any other funds. We don't receive anything from advertising. We don't have corporate sponsors or government grants. We don't have staff who get paid. We survive because you want us to. Your generosity has ensured that at least for the next couple of years we'll be alive, online, and free. We'll probably have to do another donation drive in a couple of years, but that's the art of being community funded and supported.

With just a couple days left in the campaign, I urge you, if you haven't yet, to enter one of our running contests to win some free Orain gear. We have one via our Facebook page - all you have to do is enter! Also, any person donating $5 or more is entered into a chance to win some free Orain gear too!

Since this campaign has started we've started looking at what we can do to maximize the longevity of your contributions. We've began looking at the benefits of physical servers versus virtual servers and the overall structure and foundation of our setup. This month we welcomed Tanner to our Sysadmin team. Tanner has volunteered with Mozilla for the last couple of years and is a great asset to the Sysadmin team. Tanner will be teaming up with Addshore to lead our Sysadmin team. We also welcomed FastLizard4 from the Wikipedia Account Creations Team. FL4 is one of the roots for the ACC interface and brings a lot of knowledge to the technical team.

We've recently been challenged on the content that we allow to be hosted. Our staff stood firmly by our communities and made it clear that we support your freedom of speech. Over the next few days and weeks we're going to be updating some of our policies regarding wikis and the content they host to ensure that we have something we can point to when disputes and complaints like these come up. We want to ensure that we're giving our community the best while complying with local and federal laws. A wonderful quote that brings this theory home comes from Voltaire:

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

For the staff, OrainMessenger (talk) 09:01, 30 January 2015 (GMT)

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Thank You!

Thank you for letting me know my request was approved, and if I have any problems I'll be sure to let you and the staff know!--IceFireWarden (talk) 13:54, 3 February 2015 (GMT)

How do I make more pages for my wiki?

Hello, I'm the admin of anarchism.orain.org. Is it possible for me to add more pages like anarchism.orain.org/kropotin instead of just having a "main page"? Please let me know.

Thanks

Hey there! Of course you can! We recommend having a Main Page as it's the landing page for when people visit http://anarchism.orain.org. You can certainly still create Kropotin if you want. Just go to that page and click "Edit" at the top - you'll be able to then add text to the page, click save, and voila! There it is :) Dusti*Let's talk!* 06:41, 4 February 2015 (GMT)


Thanks for the response, but I am still unsure about the steps I have to take to add a few new pages, since I can't find a admin control panel or anything to do it. When I got to anarchism.orain.org and click "edit", it only edits the same page, and I see no option of making a new one. Thanks again

EDIT: Oh nvm, I figured it out. Thanks :)

My right.orain.org userpage

https://right.orain.org/w/index.php?title=User:Michaeldsuarez&diff=95620&oldid=95249

Can you please tell the operators of right.orain.org to respect my wish to not have "Template:User" on my userpage and my wish to have __NOINDEX__ on my userpage? "Template:User" adds "X is a Rightpedia user" to pages, and I don't want Google mistakenly telling people that I'm a Rightpedia user, especially when I'm not actually a Rightpedia user. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:12, 8 February 2015 (GMT)

While I think this is getting blown way out of proportion and people simply need to leave Rightpedia alone - I've simply deleted your userpage and prevented creation. If there's anything else I can do for you, please let me know. Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:05, 8 February 2015 (GMT)
We have no problem with deleting the photo and protecting the page. If you do not object, I'd like to block Mr. Suarez and his double, JuniusThaddeus in Rightpedia. He repeatedly stated, he doesn't identify as a Rightpedia user, his account was unintentionally created through Orain's single unified login feature.
(diff | hist) . . ! User:JuniusThaddeus‎; 00:34 . . (-22)‎ . . ‎JuniusThaddeus (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (I don't identify as a Rightpedia user. My account was unintentionally created through Orain's single unified login feature.) [rollback 1 edit]
(diff | hist) . . ! User talk:JuniusThaddeus‎; 00:33 . . (+30)‎ . . ‎JuniusThaddeus (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (I don't identify as a Rightpedia user. My account was unintentionally created through Orain's single unified login feature.) [rollback 1 edit]
Fiala1 (talk) 19:25, 8 February 2015 (GMT)
In all honesty Fiala1, I don't care either way. If you do block him, I'd suggest deleting his talk page too, considering he's never edited it. Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:58, 8 February 2015 (GMT)
https://right.orain.org/w/index.php?title=User:JuniusThaddeus&action=history
Thanks, Dusti. Can you also please delete the broken redirect above? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 20:31, 8 February 2015 (GMT)
Never mind. Fiala1 just took care of it. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2015 (GMT)

Sorry I blocked Moosician...

It looked like spamming to me! Tau Ceti (talk) 07:15, 9 February 2015 (GMT)

Krasnaya Security

Are you interested in helping with the wiki farm? Here it is http://community.rs.pe/w

We really need another user after Arcane left the project because I angered him (oh dear...). If not then that's fine, me and Lieutenant S. will make the wiki better. Tau Ceti (talk) 02:07, 1 March 2015 (GMT)

I do not appreciate it that you first use Orain as a platform to discuss your bans on another wiki farm (this is Orain, not Krasnaya Security), and then suddenly start advertising here for another wiki farm (well in this case Krasnaya Security too). You are a global sysop here, and you've already done some GS actions (the last I was able to find is from end January 2015) + a quick check in your contributions on Meta shows that you try to improve Orain (so that's good) - but apart from that I actually wonder if you care more about helping out Orain with the tools you have (you have extra power on almost all wiki's and everyone else here is willing to assist you in your work here when needed), or more about using Orain for apologizing for problems on other farms (and advertising other farms). I love your global sysop work, especially since we all spend a part of our spare time into helping out here, but what you are doing now is not really useful for Orain.
Orain will never force you to help out here, and Orain will not interfere with what people say here (the only exceptions are widely known - no illegal stuff, use common sense, etc etc), it's up to you what you do here, but I don't like this behavior (only the things I pointed out above). If there's anything that prevents you from helping out, if you have questions, if you experience major bugs, if you're getting threatened, whatever reason you have - tell us. We're here to improve the farm + help users (including you and many others) who need help. Southparkfan (talk) 13:26, 1 March 2015 (GMT)
Arcane was extremely verbally abusive and spouted off a lot of pseudo legal nonsense. You should be aware of that. Катюша91 (talk) 15:07, 1 March 2015 (GMT)
Yes, but now we need more users, I'm sorry for what might come across as spam. OK? 202.142.129.178 22:30, 1 March 2015 (GMT) (tau ceti)

Rightwiki on gays

Concerning Rightwiki:

Out of curiosity I did this search:

I believe in free speech, but I don't feel the need to provide forums for lies, hate, libel, etc..

The first amendment is supported by the ACLU, etc.. The ACLU has famously litigated for the rights of some of the most hate-filled, even violence-inciting, groups such as the KKK. But you don't see the ACLU providing forums for the KKK. Supporting the right to free speech is different from providing the forums and publications. Such haters can find other forums. Let the haters create their own forums elsewhere. Orain has no obligation or moral duty to help haters. It is a fine line between inflaming hate, and inflaming violence. I believe the law is that inciting imminent violence is illegal, as in inciting a riot. "Fighting words" are also illegal at times, I believe. In other words, if you get in someone's face and insult them, the law sometimes pardons a violent response. Threats are illegal too.

Look at Russia today in the news. Putin and his oligopoly spew the hate and lies, Rightwiki, and others, pass it on (for example their article on Pussy Riot), and crazies follow their lead in killing and jailing opposition politicians, journalists, and activists. Pussy Riot members did almost 2 years in prisons under brutal conditions at times. See Pussy Riot articles linked from a page I help edit on the very brave activism of Moscow activists:

For a far better article than the Rightwiki article about Pussy Riot see this interview:

Terms of Use

The part that is relevant to this discussion: "Hate speech (including content that incites hatred or promotes violence against individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status or sexual orientation/gender identity), harassment, bullying or similar content that advocates harm against an individual or group."

I suggest adding it to Orain's terms of use, or content policy. --Timeshifter (talk) 12:37, 10 May 2015 (BST)

Email

I want to let you know that I've sent a mail to dusti at orain.org a few days ago and today, and while they aren't so urgent they need to be read with immediate priority, I kindly ask you that you read the latter one asap.. Southparkfan (talk) 15:29, 22 March 2015 (GMT)

Email

I left you an email or two several days ago and haven't heard back. :) NDKilla (talk) 03:01, 3 April 2015 (BST)

I will check that folder and get back to you over the weekend. Dusti*Let's talk!* 15:15, 3 April 2015 (BST)
Alright, thanks Dusti NDKilla (talk) 18:52, 3 April 2015 (BST)

Finances

Hey! I'm doing a big clean-up and shuffle. Could you either update or get rid of Finances? ·addshore· talk to me! 22:45, 3 April 2015 (BST)

E-mail.

I sent you an e-mail. Cyborg (talk) 16:24, 27 June 2015 (BST)

Hi Dusti

Hai. Ily. Okay. :33 but like.. Yeahhhh. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 20:03, 8 July 2015 (BST)

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