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== Wikilevels ==
==Global Rename==


Sorry, I forgot writting URL of my wiki; the URL is http://krsw.orain.org/. --[[User:カルサヴァ|Kalsava(カルサヴァ)]] ([[User talk:カルサヴァ|talk]]) 06:13, 3 June 2015 (BST)
I have moved ownership of Wikilevels from the current wiki manager to [[User:TCN7JM]]. Per discussion with the user they are interested in the site and since the current manager did not do anything with the wiki, TCN7JM will make a good person to manage the wiki. If people want a brief background on the user and why I did this without seeing them contribute here first, it is because I work with the user on Wikidata (A Wikimedia Foundation project) where TCN7JM is the holder of sysop rights therefore shows competency.


:This is the right place to request global renames. For features on your wiki, please see [[Request features|the feature request page]] and me or another user will help you ASAP. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 12:38, 3 June 2015 (BST)
Any objections are free to be discussed below but I will continue with this and I would prefer it not be reverted without discussing with me. I also discussed it with the creator of the wiki's logo who has no concerns with TCN7JM managing the wiki in its current state. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:: Sorry, I'll post request on my wiki in [[Request features|the feature request page]]. but I'd like to be renamed as above globally; would you rename me globally?--[[User:カルサヴァ|Kalsava(カルサヴァ)]] ([[User talk:カルサヴァ|talk]]) 19:08, 3 June 2015 (BST)
:::No need to be sorry. Unfortunately, I can't rename you because that requires a [[Stewards|Steward]]. I am not a Steward but I just saw your message here. I'd love to help you with your feature request asap tho. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 20:48, 3 June 2015 (BST)
::::{{Confirmed|Done}} Rename initiated <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 19:22, 25 June 2015 (BST)


== Tanner ==
== Replace my Username ==


Can you replace my username in '''Wikimarius'''.
I have removed Tanner's global Sysop due to him leaving TestWiki totally. This should not be controversial since he has not continued to edit nor contact has been made expressing interest in keeping it. As for David, regular (practically daily) contact shows he is still interested but is un available to do much but has the interest and will keep the right for when he returns.
[[User:Romanianaturewiki|Romanianaturewiki]] ([[User talk:Romanianaturewiki|talk]]) 18:48, 3 June 2015 (BST)
:Are you asking to be renamed {{ping|Romanianaturewiki}} <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 19:22, 25 June 2015 (BST)


== request to enable translations ==
As a note, Tanner gained the rights through a single stewards decision while David gained them from a stewards decision before Addshore joined us. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 21:03, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


Sorry to repeat request. I'd like to translate [[Template:Wiki farm comparison]] into Japanese. but the page isn't enabled translations. would you enable it?--[[User:カルサヴァ|Kalsava(カルサヴァ)]] ([[User talk:カルサヴァ|talk]]) 08:12, 4 June 2015 (BST)
== Arcane ==
:{{Done}} by [[User:Southparkfan]] -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 20:54, 4 June 2015 (BST)


== Adoption of NederlandWiki ==
I've granted [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] a local sysop flag. I've done this based on his assistance thus far with Orain and his knowledge of MediaWiki. I see no issues in his behavior and believe he'll be an asset. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 03:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


Hello. Could someone give me this wiki to adopt? Thanks anyway. [[User:Tintle|Tintle]] ([[User talk:Tintle|talk]]) 19:04, 4 June 2015 (BST)
== Interaction ban request - AugurNZ and Zhuyifei1999 ==


== Problem: no permissions on new wiki ==
I would like to request an enforced interaction ban between myself ([[User:AugurNZ|AugurNZ]]) and the user known as [[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]]. There may not be established policy for such a ban here at Orain at present, but I would respectfully ask that such a policy be enacted forthwith in response to this request.


Referring to [http://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Forum:No_permissions_on_new_wiki&t=20150605115246 this support ticket] suggesting staff intervention, it seems that permissions are wrong on my recently created wiki "rohbiotik.orain.org". Please correct them. Thanks in advance! --[[User:Rohbio.net|Rohbio.net]] ([[User talk:Rohbio.net|talk]]) 14:44, 5 June 2015 (BST)
For an example of the form such a policy might take, please see the [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:Interaction_Ban Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP) Interaction Ban] policy page, and their archived [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/UESPWiki:Administrator_Noticeboard/Archives/Proposed_Policy:_Prohibiting_Interactions discussion] about the issue.
:Could someone please check this? Thanks! --[[User:Rohbio.net|Rohbio.net]] ([[User talk:Rohbio.net|talk]]) 20:57, 14 June 2015 (BST)
::{{ping|Rohbio.net}} after becoming a sysadmin I manually granted you founder rights on June 16th. Are you still having this issue? If any other users experience issues let me know as it sounds like no pages are whitelisted on your private wiki. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 23:11, 25 June 2015 (BST)
:::{{ping|NDKilla}}It works fine now, thanks! --[[User:Rohbio.net|Rohbio.net]] ([[User talk:Rohbio.net|talk]]) 03:29, 27 June 2015 (BST)


== TestWiki: Proposal for bureaucrat unblockself ==
'''Evidence:''' Please see the [[Community_portal#User-based_JS_and_CSS|Community Portal discussion]] and the following IRC chat log from tonight (23-Aug-2013 [[wikipedia:NZT|NZT]])...<pre>[19:15] <zhuyifei1999> AugurNZ: answerd
[19:16] <zhuyifei1999> AugurNZ: ping
[19:16] <AugurNZ> just reading it now
[19:17] <zhuyifei1999> AugurNZ: If you want to know whether I'm actually on IRC or not, just ctcp me
[19:18] <AugurNZ> I'm not getting into it with you any further, zhuyifei1999. I'm not really all that bothered whether or not you like my contributions.
[19:18] <zhuyifei1999> I don't
[19:18] <AugurNZ> fine
[19:19] zhuyifei1999!*@* added to ignore list.</pre>...both of which indicate that an interaction ban would be appropriate in these circumstances. This is not something that I take lightly, and I am aware of the gravity of making such a request. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 07:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


Hello, I will link you a proposal from the TestWiki that has consesus to add the <code>unblockself</code> permission to the bureaucrat group. Here is the link to the proposal : [http://test.orain.org/wiki/TestWiki:Community_portal/Proposal_for_bureaucrats_unblockself link]. {{Ping|NDKilla}} as he is the starter of this proposal. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 19:26, 5 June 2015 (BST)
'''{{note}}''' [[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] has been blocked for one week due to the harassment both on wiki and the continued harassment on IRC after a warning. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 07:58, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:I am sure someone will get to this as soon as they have time! You could speed the process up by making the change yourself in the ansible-playbook on github! '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 19:57, 8 June 2015 (BST)
:Thank you Dusti, but I still feel that there is a need for this interaction ban. As far as I know I have done nothing to provoke {{gender:Zhuyifei1999|his|her|his/her}} personal attacks against me. Also for consideration I submit [http://wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/AugurNZ my contributions to the WikiIndex site] as this was raised in Zhuyifei1999's comment in the CP discussion. Note that my profile page there was created at 10:47 on 22-Aug-2013 (NZT), which was '''''before''''' the first offensive post from Zhuyifei1999 was made here at 11:39 (NZT) on the Meta.Orain Community Portal. I had seen {{gender:Zhuyifei1999|his|her|his/her}} <span class="plainlinks">[https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zhuyifei1999&curid=604&action=history edit]</span> appear in the RC here at Orain, and followed the link to WikiIndex. Impressed by what I saw there, I registered an account and proceeded to create my common user profile components in preparation to start contributing there. When I saw the commotion that was going on back here at Orain between myself and Zhuyifei1999, I swiftly blanked my pages at WikiIndex and removed the account entry from my [[wikipedia:KeePass|KeePass]], so I can no longer log in on that site under that username.
::And how can I do this? Could you please give me a link? (Sorry for bothering you). --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 19:59, 8 June 2015 (BST)
:BTW, I should have mentioned that the IRC log posted above was from #orain on Freenode. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 08:53, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:::The playbook is [http://github.com/orain/ansible-playbook here], mediawiki settings can be found [https://github.com/Orain/ansible-playbook/tree/master/roles/mediawiki/files/localsettings here] '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 20:09, 8 June 2015 (BST)
::::Thank you. I am not very good at coding so probably someone else could do this. Wouldn't this edit Orain meta as well? --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 20:11, 8 June 2015 (BST)
:::::This would not affect meta if done right because you can enable the settings only on test wiki. I'll get around to it today or tomorrow. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 21:26, 8 June 2015 (BST)
::::::Thank you. If you have time please leave me a message or on the community portal when you do the change. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 12:20, 10 June 2015 (BST)
{{Done}} by SPF --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:20, 11 June 2015 (BST)


== Admin Permissions on Izanagi ==
{{note|Proposal}} - [[User:AugurNZ|AugurNZ]] and [[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] are hereby instructed to cease communication via this interaction ban. This ban encompasses both Orain and all projects hosted by Orain, as well as any room associated with Orain on IRC. Should either user initiate contact with the other violating this Interaction Ban - the user may be blocked initially for up to 1 month, then with new violation a block increasing in duration to a maximum of 1 year. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 16:19, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be needing to do these but I guess it seems fine for enforcement. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:: I agree with John. This shouldn't have to happen, but since it did, I '''support''' the IBAN, albeit I like both editors, so this is beyond unfortunate. Sorry. '''[[User:CoachWP6336| <span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-weight:900; color:blue;">Coach</span>]] [[User:CoachWP6336|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-weight:900;color: orange;">Wikipedia</span>]] ([[User talk:CoachWP6336| <span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-weight:900; color:blue;">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/CoachWP6336|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-weight:900;color: orange;">C</span>]] • [[User:CoachWP6336/Guestbook|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-weight:900;color: blue;">G</span>]] • [[Special:EmailUser/CoachWP6336|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-weight:900;color: orange;">E</span>]])''' 18:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


Hi,
Seeing as there's no real reason to decline this - I'm {{Confirmed|Approving}} this - effective the end of Zhuyifei's block. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 19:51, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
It seems, my permissions weren't layer out correctly. As the founder of izanagi.orain.org, I don't have the permission to set user rights or upload files. I understand its some error with CreateWiki and was directed here. Please fix at you convenience.
: Thank you. <span title="Meta-Wiki profile" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AugurNZ <font color="#000" face="Times">'''''Augur'''''</font><font color="#33f" family="Arial">'''''NZ'''''</font>]</span> <span title="Meta-Wiki talk" class="plainlinks">[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AugurNZ <font color="#000" size="4">&#x2710;</font>]</span>[[Special:Contributions/AugurNZ|<font size="4" color="#000">&#x2315;</font>]] 20:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


Thank you!
== Global Importer ==


Due to my recent change limiting importupload, I have created a global importer group for users who have experience with importing and are skilled with doing related duties such as history merges. The rights have been added as they are per recommendation of [[User:Eikes|Eikes]]. For information, Eikes (not his Wikimedia username) has experience on Wikimedia wikis with import rights and related responsibilities such as histmerges. This is why I therefore listened to his advice on rights and assigned him the rights to begin with. If a fellow steward disagrees with a right in the group, please communicate with me first before removing it unless it is apparent that it is or can be very easily abused. Also note, my focus for the group is users in or limited to those who need to use it globally or have great experience with it. In addition, I wish for the group to remain fully globally though wikis may opt out of it as needed. Thanks, [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:36, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


:{{done}} a while ago. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 12:06, 27 June 2015 (BST)
== Ombudsman Group Creation ==


== Bureaucrat and Admin on Roemenie and Ruimtevaart Wiki ==
I just wanted to let everyone know that I've gone ahead and created the ombudsman group with the following permissions:
* abusefilter-log-private
* checkuser-log
* suppressionlog
Those were just some basic permissions that they should have (in my opinion), if you feel there should be others, feel free to add them and post here. I might consider removing abusefilter-log-private after more discussion. This group is active on all wikis. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 18:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Joe, thanks for creating the group. I also added <code>browsearchive</code>, <code>deletedhistory</code>, <code>deletedtext</code> and <code>suppressrevision</code> for read-only purposes, so that the Ombudsman can review what was actually deleted/suppressed. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 19:57, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
::Sounds good, I wasn't sure if that was necessary for them to view page text and such. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 21:00, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


I am the maker of Roemenie Wiki : [http://roemenie.orain.org roemenie.orain.org]
== I have two accounts on the Orain wiki farm ==
and [[http://ruimtevaart.orain.org]].
Why i am not bureaucrat and admin ?
Can you please change it
[[User:Romanianaturewiki|Romanianaturewiki]] ([[User talk:Romanianaturewiki|talk]]) 06:06, 6 June 2015 (BST)
:This request is here for 6 days. {{Ping|Addshore}} {{Ping|Southparkfan}} --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:13, 12 June 2015 (BST)
::{{Done}} by me on June 16th -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 23:15, 25 June 2015 (BST)


== Removal of access ==
I have GethN7 (the account I used to set up All The Tropes), and the other account is Arcane. I use the name GethN7 on Wikia and on ATT. Arcane is my name on most other wikis (Arcane21 on Wikimedia projects).


Because of the new [http://test.orain.org/wiki/TestWiki:Community_portal/Proposal_for_inactivity_of_administrators proposal of inactivity of administrators], I removed the flag of users with 6 months or more of inactivity. Some of them, have the bureaucrat flag too, so please, remove it from them.
I have the accounts for different reasons since I'm known by different names on different wikis. "Arcane" is my local admin account here on Orain Meta and is strictly for Orain Meta related purposes. GethN7 is strictly for running the All The Tropes wiki, a name I chose since it's what I am known as on Wikia.
;Users
*[http://test.orain.org/wiki/User:Smtchahal Smtchahal]
*[http://test.orain.org/wiki/User:Shanmugamp7 Shanmugamp7]
*[http://test.orain.org/wiki/User:Aldnonymous Aldnonymous]
*[http://test.orain.org/wiki/User:TheTester TheTester]
*[http://test.orain.org/wiki/User:PlasmaTime PlasmaTime]


Thank you. [[User:Cyborg|Cyborg]] ([[User talk:Cyborg|talk]]) 22:14, 8 June 2015 (BST)
I have tried not to use either account for illicit purposes and while I did not intend deliberate deception, I did not want to reveal my alternate accounts since I use them for different purposes. However, since I accidentally outed myself on the Orain IRC channel, I have decided, in the interests of transparency, to make clear my two accounts and my intentions for both.
:Of course this is on the TestWiki. {{Ping|Southparkfan}} Could you please take care of this? --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 12:19, 10 June 2015 (BST)
::All done '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:34, 4 July 2015 (BST)


== Steward nomination ==
If I have caused any confusion or I should have admitted this information earlier, I apologize for any confusion or problems this may have caused.
{{Discussion top}}
Hello current Stewards and other community members. I'm not exactly sure how or why the current Stewards were chosen or how any future ones would be chosen. I myself have been around here two months but I've been trying to work with the community to figure out how to help improve it.


I've been talking to [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] a lot lately and I was thinking that they'd make a great Steward. SPF is a current sysadmin and I think they do a great job at that. Addshore and SPF are the two sysadmins I currently think are the most active and addshore is already a steward too. I think that SPF would also be a great Steward.
Regardless, I am proud to be member of Orain, and I promise neither of these accounts will be used in a manner detrimental to this service. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 20:40, 7 November 2013 (UTC)


As a sysadmin I believe SPF already has access to most, if not all, of the tools Stewards have. Being a Steward would allow SPF to help in an administrative manner rather than just maintaining Orain. This would allow SPF to regularly use Oversight without worrying if it's an "emergency" situation (SPF has handled a majority of my OS requests) and it would also allow SPF to handle [[Meta:Requests for permissions]].
:Thank you for the clarification, I would like to take this opportunity to note that an email has also been sent to the steward team regarding this topic and confirming that these two users are really the same. Thank you, -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 20:43, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:Hi GethN7, could you please confirm this by editing under your Arcane account? [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 15:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
::I left an edit on my Arcane account as GethN7 confirming it is an alternate account, with an edit reasons stating I did so by your request. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 19:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
:::OK. Please note that alternate accounts should normally be identified on both user pages, or, at the very least, known to the stewards. [[User:Kudu|Kudu]] ([[User talk:Kudu|talk]]) 17:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


I honestly don't think that any of the current Stewards are doing a bad job but I understand that things happen off-wiki and having another great community member helping as a Steward would be beneficial.
== Dormant Wikis ==


Thank you Stewards and community members for considering this. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 18:46, 9 June 2015 (BST)
Hi guys,
:I accept the nomination. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 18:56, 9 June 2015 (BST)


:'''Abstain''' - as a current steward, however, SPF will have to complete the identification process - which will be discussed with him privately as I am aware of his situation. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 17:27, 12 June 2015 (BST)
Today, I am going through and tagging wikis per the [[Dormant wikis]] policy for locking sometime in the future. Stewards should check this list periodically to see if the wikis listed have passed the acceptable lock date and take action if they are still inactive.
::<s>Just pointing out its hard to tell which "current steward" you are when you are logged out. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 22:55, 9 June 2015 (BST)</s> <small>Apparently it's Dusti</small>
:'''Abstain''' for now - I think SPF would make a fine steward, but I would only support if he completed the identification process. I'm surprised that he has not already (being a sysadmin and such), but that's for another discussion another time. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 00:32, 10 June 2015 (BST)
:'''Abstain''' Per Joe G, if he does the indetification process I will change to '''Support''' as SPF is suited for Steward. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 12:18, 10 June 2015 (BST)
:{{Support}} as nominator. I think it's obvious the community would support SPF if he were identified, but he is unidentified. I still support him either way and hope this isn't an issue. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 13:05, 12 June 2015 (BST)
:'''Abstain''' - Per Joe G. [[User:Cyborg|Cyborg]] ([[User talk:Cyborg|talk]]) 18:57, 14 June 2015 (BST)
{{Discussion bottom}}
<s>{{On hold|On hold/Pending Closure}} Pending discussion with {{ping|Southparkfan}} <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 19:18, 25 June 2015 (BST)</s><br>
{{Not done}} After a discussion with Southparkfan, this steward nomination is being closed as unsuccessful. Thank you all for your time, patience, and understanding. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 17:55, 26 June 2015 (BST)


== Request for Wiki Creator ==
<!-- ONLY Stewards should edit the list of wikis below. If you wiki is listed, please leave a message in the comments section and a steward will mark it as active again. -->
Wikis to be locked on '''24 November 2013''' (inactive since/before 25 October 2013):
* <s>micronationswiki ([https://micronations.orain.org micronations.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)</s> '''(Active as of 14 November 2013)'''
* alleniawiki ([https://allenia.orain.org aliena.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* buswiki ([https://bus.orain.org bus.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* chemdaqwiki ([https://chemdaq.orain.org chemdaq.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* distracteddrivingwiki ([https://disracteddriving.orain.org distracteddriving.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* <s>elderlordswiki ([https://elderlords.orain.org elderlords.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)</s> '''(Active as of 14 November 2013)'''
* enmodamobwiki ([https://enmodamob.orain.org enmodamob.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* levelswiki ([https://levels.orain.org levels.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* logopediawiki ([https://logopedia.orain.org logopedia.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* meridian59wiki ([https://meridian59.orain.org meridian59.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* nflwiki ([https://nfl.orain.org nfl.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* onlinicawiki ([https://onlinica.orain.org onlinica.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* penguinrpgwiki ([https://penguinrpg.orain.org penguinrpg.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* programminggameswiki ([https://programminggames.orain.org programminggames.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* <s>sacwiki ([https://sac.orain.org sac.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013) </s>'''(Reopened as of 29 November 2013)'''
* sohwiki ([https://sohwiki.orain.org sohwiki.orain.org]) (notified 09 November 2013)
* storytellingwiki ([https://storytelling.orain.org storytelling.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* <s>sturmkriegwiki ([https://sturmkrieg.orain.org sturmkrieg.orain.org]) (notified 09 November 2013) (Note: Wiki has edits as recent as 30 October 2013 but they are a steward's reverting of vandalism; the most recent constructive edit was 20 October 2013)</s> '''(Active as of 19 November 2013)'''
* triggerwarningwiki ([https://triggerwarning.orain.org triggerwarning.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* turielwiki ([https://turiel.orain.org turiel.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* wikiteamwiki ([https://wikiteam.orain.org wikiteam.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)
* ukrwiki1wiki ([https://ukrwiki1.orain.org ukrwiki1.orain.org]) (notified on 09 November 2013)


As [[User:addshore|addshore]] has told me to post on "Orain Meta", after I sent him an email I will. I would like to be Wiki Creator because I do not think there are enough. As NDKilla has been chosen administrator and sysadmin she will no longer have time to do all the Wiki Creating. I have read the guide and I know how the process to create wiki's works. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 18:16, 18 June 2015 (BST)
Thank you, -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 20:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
:For the record I plan on still handling wiki creation as a sysadmin but I am currently out of the country. I have no objections to Reception123 becoming a wiki creator but would like someone else to guide as I will be busy. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 19:32, 18 June 2015 (BST)
===Comments===
::Yes, but you will of course have bigger responsibilities. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 19:33, 18 June 2015 (BST)
====Elder lords and Micronations ====
:::What is the current state with creating CNAMEs? Did anyone manage to fix the auto creation? '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 22:26, 18 June 2015 (BST)
Hold on a minute. I returned and edited on my elder lords wiki and my micronations wiki so don't close em please.-[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 13:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::: I don't think so.... Sadly ;( -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 15:47, 19 June 2015 (BST)
:Hi Tyreek, at the time that we checked, your wikis were inactive. I am marking them as active again and they will not be closed. In the future, if your wikis are marked as being subject to being closed, please do not remove the banner yourself; this is only because it is a way you can get confirmation that a steward has acknowledged activity on the wiki again. If you have further questions, please feel free to ask. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 19:22, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::: Rights granted. Please do '''not''' create wikis yet until we (either addshore, NDKilla or me) said you can - there are some issues that need to be fixed first. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 18:23, 19 June 2015 (BST)
::::::Thank you very much! Please write on my talkpage when I can start creating wikis. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 19:02, 19 June 2015 (BST)
==Problem with thumbnail==
https://right.orain.org/wiki/File:Global_Fertility_Rates,_1970_and_2014.png
The file does not show at all. The file on the pc is correct, size is 284kB. [[User:Fiala1|Fiala1]] ([[User talk:Fiala1|talk]]) 19:45, 24 June 2015 (BST)
:{{ping|Fiala1}} What do you mean it doesn't show up? It appears that the larger version was creating issues but the 283kB file currently uploaded works. [https://right.orain.org/wiki/User:NDKilla My user page] has two different size thumbnails of the image, and it also appears on the image's information page. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 20:58, 24 June 2015 (BST)
:It most likely was a caching issue. You should always try purging the page first before doing anything else. [[User:Wynter|Wynter]] ([[User talk:Wynter|talk]]) 04:15, 25 June 2015 (BST)
::[[Tech:Noticeboard#Thumbnail problems]] the image is now working because it was manually resized.. I've seen this problem in other places with large images.. Like I said on the noticeboard I'm not sure if it's an issue with the built in thumbnail size limiter or if it's an actual limitation that will have to be worked around. Anyways, feels more techy than stewardy -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 23:21, 25 June 2015 (BST)


==== SAC wiki ====
== Delete my wiki ==


Greetings all. Please delete my wiki completely. I don't want the old pages showing up in any new wiki under this subdomain:
For the record, SACwiki ([https://sac.orain.org sac.orain.org]) has been experiencing a glitch with logging in for over a month by now that effectively prevented its members from contributing. '''[[User_talk:John#SACwiki_login_problems|I notified global steward John]]''' of the problem back then, but it's still unresolved, hence the absence of activity, which has now led to the inactivity charge. Moreover, contrary to the statement above, I have not been notified of the dormancy issues, otherwise I would have brought this issue up here long ago. It was only by chance that I stumbled upon this notice today. Could you please remove SACwiki from the shutdown list and help fix the login issue. Much obliged. Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 08:33, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
*https://cannabis.orain.org
:{{done|Reopened}} and we will check into that login issue right away, my apologies for the mistake. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 14:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::{{done}} We have resolved the login issue on your wiki. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 17:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you so much, Joe G. Regards, [[User:SAC SEC|SAC SEC]] ([[User talk:SAC SEC|talk]]) 21:46, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


I have decided not to follow through and create another cannabis wiki. I was thinking of a different focus for this cannabis wiki, versus the other cannabis wikis out there I have worked on. But I don't have the time.
=== Policy update ===


I want complete deletion and not adoption. That way people will not be confused if they see my user name on the edit history of any pages here. They were mostly framework pages and categories. I already deleted all the pages and categories. And I don't want them undeleted. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 09:59, 28 June 2015 (BST)
The policy has been updated to require that wikis be deleted after 3 months of inactivity. There will be an additional concurrent grace period of 14 days, meaning that no wiki will be deleted earlier than March 30, 2014. However, wikis whose 3 months of inactivity fall after that date will not get an additional time extension. <span style="font-family: Georgia, Garamond, serif;">[[User:Kudu|<span style="color: blue;">Kudu</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Kudu|<sup><span style="color: blue;">~I/O~</span></sup>]]</span> 20:49, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:Hi Timeshifter! I'm sorry to hear that you didn't have time to attend to your other cannabis wiki. Unfortunately, we do not delete wikis here at Orain upon request. Your wiki will follow the [[dormant wikis]] policy and be closed upon meeting inactivity criteria. If another steward of sysadmin wants to close it earlier, they may do so. After 6 months of inactivity, the wiki may then be permanently deleted. I do not think you will have anyone restoring pages with your username in the edit history, and if they do, you are free to ask them to remove it at their discretion. I'm sorry we cannot directly fulfill your request, but thank you for using Orain! -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 18:46, 28 June 2015 (BST)


::I can understand the hesitation on the part of a wiki farm to delete a wiki. Some wiki farms are OK with it, and some aren't. Wikis with one controlling person (only one bureaucrat or steward) should be allowed to do this in my opinion, especially if nearly all the edits are theirs. In my wiki, there are *no* pages to defend or be worried about. See:
== Sturmkrieg ==
::https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/Special:AllPages - only redirects show up. I am not even sure how they arrived here. I think a steward may have misinterpreted or enlarged one of my import requests. I did not bother deleting the redirects since they are not seen anywhere after all the pages were deleted. Those redirects in the "AllPages" results though might irritate somebody that adopts the subdomain. Why not give them a clean wiki instead, by deleting the wiki completely. Then give them single-bureaucrat status on the totally clean subdomain of cannabis.orain.org
::From Dormant wikis page: "After 6 months of inactivity, a wiki may be permanently deleted from the network unless a request is made for archival where the wiki will be kept on the network indefinitely or until such a request becomes outdated." There is nothing to archive. So why wait? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 22:10, 28 June 2015 (BST)
:::The dormant wiki page also says that someone can adopt the wiki within that period if they so wish. I know it is not your desire that someone does, but if they want to, we don't have a compelling reason not to let them. At this time, I am not in a position to make an exception to the policy and think it should stand as is. If another steward wishes to make an exception, that is their choice and I will respect it. I'm sorry that my answer isn't what you'd like it to be, but it is the policy as it is currently written. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 01:56, 29 June 2015 (BST)
::::OK. Could you ask the other stewards about this? Rules usually have exceptions. "I know it is not your desire that someone does". No, I want someone else to adopt the subdomain, cannabis.orain.org. I am trying to free it up completely.


::::I have a question. Is there some kind of mass delete function, I or you can use to delete all the redirects listed here:
It's active again. Please remove the notice. [[User:Sturmkrieger|Sturmkrieger]] ([[User talk:Sturmkrieger|talk]]) 03:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
::::https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/Special:AllPages - nearly all of them never redirected to actual pages here. I only experimented with a few opinion pages here months ago when I was thinking of forking them from my pages on Wikia's cannabis wiki, where I am the sole bureaucrat. But I soon deleted the opinion pages here after further thought, and deciding against forking everything from Wikia to other wikis. I had already forked the Global Marijuana March city pages to Shoutwiki's cannabis wiki, where I am the steward. I had decided to keep the opinion pages on Wikia months ago. I was thinking of maybe starting another focus here on the Orain wiki. But I no longer have the time to do so. Anyway, I don't want to have to tediously delete the redirects one by one. Can you or another steward or admin help? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 09:41, 29 June 2015 (BST)


<sub>(reset outdent)</sub> So, what you basically want, is to delete all of the redirects that still remain or all of the pages listed on AllPages? We do have [[Special:Nuke]], but I don't know if it is available on each wiki. If not, I will happily delete whatever pages you want. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 17:24, 29 June 2015 (BST)
== AlleniaWiki Inactivity Notice Removal ==
:Actually, I just tried to nuke some of the pages on your wiki and because they are not recently added, I cannot. The system administrators do have the ability to run deleteBatch.php on a list of pages. I'll go poke one of the for you. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 17:27, 29 June 2015 (BST)
This wiki has been semi-inactive due to a temporary hiatus of the project. However, the wiki will become more active as more players come onto the server, and as more features are added. I would like the banner to please be removed. Thank you.
::Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 19:23, 29 June 2015 (BST)
:Hi there, could you please make an edit to the wiki? Then, per the dormancy policy, the wiki will become active again and the banner will be removed. Thank you! (The edit is strictly procedure to make a record of when the last edit was made so we don't accidentally mark it again!) -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 00:13, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


== Fatal exception of type MWException ==
== Cricket Wiki ==
In [https://cricket.orain.org Cricket Wiki] transwiki import is available. But I'm requesting here to enable the '''file upload import''' at Cricket Wiki. Cause there's many thing that cannot be imported only by transwiki import. In these cases file upload import is very very much useful. There's no active community there. I'm the only one active there and currently managing that wiki. So I'll not be able to give any consensus. --'''[[User:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Pr<font color="red">at</font><font color="blue">yya</font></span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:orange;font-family:Verdana">'''(Hello!)'''</span>]]</sup> 11:41, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:For which reason do you need import upload where simple copy and paste can not be achieved? Similar to your previous use for importing Wikimedia specific gadgets? [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 11:43, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
::Actually I'm gonna import some Module Space pages and some complicated templates from English Wiki (en.wikipedia.org). That's why I'm requesting to enable file upload import. Also that's a cricket wiki. It'll contain article about only cricket. So I'll need to import a little. But copy and pasting takes a lot of time while import is automated and you don't need much time. @[[User:John|John]] --'''[[User:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Pr<font color="red">at</font><font color="blue">yya</font></span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:orange;font-family:Verdana">'''(Hello!)'''</span>]]</sup> 11:53, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Done temporarily. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 12:12, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


I've noticed some wikis have been getting this error. Every few page refreshes it comes up. So far I've seen it on allthetropes and right orain wikis. The page is blank except for things like "[a2eacd4d] 2015-06-29 03:21:56: Fatal exception of type MWException" and "[bf1321ce] 2015-06-29 03:22:01: Fatal exception of type MWException". [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 04:41, 29 June 2015 (BST)
== GS wiki ==


:Like I said below, both wikis work for me. The issues have been resolved. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 14:38, 29 June 2015 (BST)
We currently have a GS nomination on [[SRGP]], and I want to know these things: (Although I don't have any private wikis,) do GS' have access to private wkkis? And, what's the rule for GS opt-out wikis? Thanks, &mdash;[[User:Revi|<span style="color:green">레비<small>Revi</small></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:Green">D</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Revi|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]][[Special:EmailUser/Revi|<span style="color:pink">M</span>]]</sub> 13:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
:GS have Sysop access on private wikis, how the lack of the 'read' right means it is impossible for a GS to make use of the rights. Stewards on the other do have read access only for steward work. GS opt-out is done based on a request from the wiki owner. Similar to opt out for bots. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


::Indeed all of these issues should now be resolved. '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:32, 4 July 2015 (BST)
== Admin request ==


== Deleting Wikis : 6 Months of inactivity ==
Could I please be promoted to sysop so that I can work on organization and editing this wiki to serve as a community wiki? I did similar work at Wikkii before they were abandon by the sysadmins. Also, Arcane is a sysop here and we've worked together on plenty of projects before. [[User:Inquisitor Sasha|Inquisitor Sasha]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor Sasha|talk]]) 16:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:Please follow the [[Meta:Requests for permissions|local process]] [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:23, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


Hello, there are some wiki's that have been closed for 6 months and have not been adopted by anyone, as of the [[Dormant wikis]] these wiki's should be deleted by a steward. There is a list below of these Wikis. I have not yet found all of them, I will add them to this list. {{Ping|Joe G}} You have helped me with the Dormant wikis so maybe you could do the deleting. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 08:41, 29 June 2015 (BST)
== Interwiki request ==
https://ansiklopedi.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page


https://cricket.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page
Please add <code><nowiki>[[GitHub:]]</nowiki></code> for GitHub ansible-playbook repository page(or issue page), so <code><nowiki>[[GitHub:Issue/1]]</nowiki></code> goes to GitHub ansible-playbook issue 1. &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 02:03, 19 July 2014 (BST)
:Added interwiki to admins. Feel free to do it yourself. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:56, 21 July 2014 (BST)
::Thanks: {{done}}. &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 14:40, 22 July 2014 (BST)


https://darknessdwellers.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page
== Blocked on dragonballwiki ==


https://eikes.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page
I wonder why [https://dragonball.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3ASouthparkfan&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= I am blocked on dragonballwiki]? I didn't made any edits or log actions (only account creation), but Esmost blocks me anyway. Obviously, I am not able to ask Esmost why and I request an unblock, as it seems there is no appropriate reason to block me. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 18:17, 30 August 2014 (BST)
:Unblocked and asked them since you are a trusted user globally. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 18:19, 30 August 2014 (BST)


https://frmodamob.orain.org/wiki/Bienvenue
== Error on Page ==


https://nederland.orain.org
I stumbled on this page when searching for something and found an error.<br />
==> allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/Alien_Sky<br />
I am not a user and do not want to become one, but I found an error on one of your pages and maybe you want to fix it. As a scientist I hope you will since you are saying 'Bad Science'.<br />


http://programminggames.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page
It says,<br />
"The Sliders episode "State Of The A.R.T." changed the color of the sky to lilac. The Ridiculously Human Robot gives it a Hand Wave about pollution particles-- not one that makes scientific sense, of course, but at least it was acknowledged."<br />
<br />


https://faalingar.orain.org
The robot does not say "pollution particles", he says "particles and gasses" and what he says Does make scientific sense. He is explaining in a very simple fashion, 'Raleigh Scattering' which is the correct explanation and main reason as to why our sky is blue.<br />
:{{Ping|Reception123}} I don't think I have the technical ability to delete the wiki, just close them. As a wikicreator, you have the ability to add the databases of those wikis to the [[Database list/Deleted|Deleted Wikis List]] and someone will take care of it from there. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 15:52, 29 June 2015 (BST)
::Okay, as a steward I thought you would have the ability to delete wikis. Probably yes, somebody else will. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 17:23, 29 June 2015 (BST)
:::{{Ping|addshore}} as you have root access. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 19:27, 30 June 2015 (BST)
::::Thanks for [https://meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Database_list&diff=16835&oldid=16810 this]! They will be deleted / archived in due course but are no longer accessible anyway! :) '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:21, 4 July 2015 (BST)


::::::When you do delete/archive please also do :
Our sky is 99% nitrogen and oxygen which are almost the same size molecules and cause scattering of blue light. (There are also secondary reasons from the emission spectra of oxygen and nitrogen, our ionosphere, how thick our atmosphere is, and the way the cones in our eyes work.)<br />
tintlewiki
It is perfectly reasonable to have an atmosphere of smaller particles(maybe helium and oxygen) that would have Raleigh scattering of violet light.
tintlewikiwiki
--[[Special:Contributions/71.174.126.2|71.174.126.2]] 21:52, 31 August 2014 (BST)
estintlewiki
:Hi there! This would be best reported on that individual site as we have very little to do with local content. You can share your concerns by going back to that page and clicking on the "Discussion tab" at the top. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 16:21, 1 September 2014 (BST)


per the request of author. This is on the behalf of [[User:NDKilla]] [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 13:41, 5 July 2015 (BST)
== Recent changes problem ==


==exception on right.orain.org==
Hello there, on my wiki nationale.orain.org, whenever I click recent changes the page says "This is a cached copy of the requested page, and may not be up to date.
when we try to edit, we get: [85861b6b] 2015-06-29 08:16:52: Fatal exception of type MWException
Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
We also get the same type of exception, when we try to look at the Recent changes page.
[[User:Fiala1|Fiala1]] ([[User talk:Fiala1|talk]]) 09:17, 29 June 2015 (BST)
:I can perfectly see both the RecentChanges page, and edit other pages. I have heard the error has been solved. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 14:35, 29 June 2015 (BST)


:: Monday, it came back and by mid-day everything was down on all wikis except for the very front page of meta.orain.org -- all other pages were down. I did a test and found that Cloudflare wasn't bringing up the CAPTCHA page for Tor so something is being routed wrong. Orain stayed down all Monday through the night and came back at some point today, Tuesday...but I only checked first an hour ago. Today, meta and allthetropes work perfectly but right gets errors about 3/4th of the time when not logged in and about 1/2 of the time when logged in. As of now it happens far more often on &action=history pages and Special: pages like Special:Recentchanges and submitting things to a show preview does it like all of the time. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 21:24, 30 June 2015 (BST)
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.


Now (30th June, 2015), 22:22 evening, Middle European Time, again:
(Cannot contact the database server: No such file or directory)
Selecting recent changes causes: <br>
[848019ec] 2015-06-30 20:21:34: Fatal exception of type MWException <br>
Calling edit on any the page also causes exeption<br>
[97094500] 2015-06-30 20:28:53: Fatal exception of type MWException <br>
Strangely the error comes and goes, after page reload it disappears, and later re-appears.<br>
[[User:Fiala1|Fiala1]] ([[User talk:Fiala1|talk]]) 21:23, 30 June
2015 (BST)


You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date."


I would love for this problem to be fixed please.--[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 14:28, 21 September 2014 (BST)
right.orain is now fully down and even after hundreds of refreshes, won't load anymore. Other wikis still work. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 00:03, 1 July 2015 (BST)
:Hello Tyreek! We are undergoing some cache & HHVM problems, the sysadmins will look at this soon. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 14:29, 21 September 2014 (BST)
::Okay, thanks.--[[User:Tyreek|Tyreek]] ([[User talk:Tyreek|talk]]) 22:20, 21 September 2014 (BST)
:::The issue is genuinely unknown here. The error message is less than helpful, no error logs or any logs at all are being generated about it however enabling HHVM fixes the issue which is currently a beta feature on all wikis and will likely be one our default runtime on Saturday. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:36, 21 September 2014 (BST)


The MWException mainly affects right.orain even though the extensions are for another wiki, likely the testwiki. The testwiki and all the other wikis get intermitent errors but are not down. Sunday, Monday, and today right.orain gets growing MWException and then permanently goes down around noon from MWException. It stays down for about 22 hours, then is up about 2 hours, then goes right back down. Last month Orain had outages like this and it lasted weeks.
== Import from XML dump please? ==
The wiki I proposed was recently approved at [http://www.class.orain.org class.orain.org] and the person who approved it said I could request that someone here perform the import from my backup file. I would appreciate it if that could be done. The backup file is [http://www.filedropper.com/wikibkup here]. Thank you in advance. --[[User:KiserJ|KiserJ]] ([[User talk:KiserJ|talk]]) 01:52, 27 September 2014 (BST)
:Added to my list of things to do. Priority is low but I'll aim to get it done before I start work on upgrading our infrastructure later today. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:46, 27 September 2014 (BST)
::Thanks, let me know if you need a download mirror or anything. --[[User:KiserJ|KiserJ]] ([[User talk:KiserJ|talk]]) 03:51, 28 September 2014 (BST)
Just thought I would check in on this and see where we are at. Do you have an ETA or need anything else from me? --[[User:KiserJ|KiserJ]] ([[User talk:KiserJ|talk]]) 01:34, 1 October 2014 (BST)
:Sorry, I got side tracked recently. Doing now. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 18:56, 5 October 2014 (BST)
::{{done}} [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 19:12, 5 October 2014 (BST)
:::Thank you--[[User:KiserJ|KiserJ]] ([[User talk:KiserJ|talk]]) 00:21, 7 October 2014 (BST)


I tested it and I am not getting the Cloudflare CAPTCHA when I connect on Tor so Cloudflare is not up. That may be related to the issue. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 01:58, 1 July 2015 (BST)
== New Global Sysop Right ==


:All of these should now be fixed. '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:32, 4 July 2015 (BST)
Global sysops now have the ability to make and remove global blocks on IP addresses. This feature was enabled in an effort to combat the growing amount of spam that is being received on a daily basis. Questions and concerns may be made below. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 21:25, 29 September 2014 (BST)
:The problem is that the IP-addresses used for spam are entirely different, I've made some rangeblocks on Meta (local), but it doesn't seems to help. Any ideas? [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 21:34, 29 September 2014 (BST)
::Unless I'm mistaken, you can rangeblock globally as well - which should have an impact. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 21:46, 29 September 2014 (BST)
:::Though really should be avoided unless necessary. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 22:07, 29 September 2014 (BST)
::::Visiting [[Special:GlobalBlock]] only triggers permission errors here. [[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 21:55, 30 September 2014 (BST)
:::::The userright is enabled - I just double checked. Try logging out and clearing your cache. I'm able to go there no problem. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 22:06, 30 September 2014 (BST)
:::::: I do not have cache on globalblock, and I see permission error too. &mdash; [[User talk:Revi|<span style="color:green">Revi<sub><small>Complaint?</small></sub></span>]] 15:47, 27 October 2014 (GMT)
:::::::I've just removed the right for two reasons. 1) The ability to globally block an IP should only be enabled on metawiki. 2) GS is not enabled on metawiki. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 16:57, 27 October 2014 (GMT)


== Script error ==
== Notification of resignment ==


Dear readers,
Hi, there are script error on Buamania Wiki (bus.orain.org) all the time and i have no idea what went wrong, can you help me with it? thanks.
Everytime I creat a new page or update the old ones with modules, there will be a red "脚本错误"(Script error) tooltip cannot creat lua process


I write this message because I want to explain the community something. You may or may not know who I am, but I’m currently best known as a wiki creator, global sysop and system admininistrator who has been part of Orain since the beginning (in July two years ago!). I have various rights and roles here, and I have always contributed to Orain as best as I can. But, from now on, I will no longer be a wiki creator, global sysop or sysadmin.
[[User:Ww9980|ww9980]] ([[User talk:Ww9980|talk]]) 21:08, 9 November 2014 (GMT)


I’ll immediately resign from all my positions (as of writing: Meta sysop, Meta bureaucrat, Global Rollbacker, Global Sysop, system administrator (and some other accounts related to this)). There are a few reasons for that.
== Spam bot's on Test Wiki ==


I don’t really like the work anymore. Despite the fact that I work as a volunteer, I feel the work has become more of a responsibility than something you like to do. That’s not anyone’s fault (I really mean that), but I still don’t really enjoy it anymore compared to a while back before this. I don’t want to do volunteer work if I feel it’s not really volunteering anymore.
Hello stewards, recently there has been a big number of spam bot's on the [http://test.orain.org the test wiki]. Is there something you can do about it? --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 07:50, 23 November 2014 (GMT)

:There have been a lot everywhere recently. What we need are better spam filters globally but I am not in the best if states to be doing this stuff for now. Global Sysops have the ability to create global filters. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 08:14, 23 November 2014 (GMT)
There are also some more reasons besides the above one, but I’d like to keep them private.
::Yes, the filter's need to be configured better, on the TestWiki they are mixed up with the test filters but also the global filters do not work to well. I hope this is fixed. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 11:21, 23 November 2014 (GMT)
I’d like to thank you all for all the great times I have had with you. It was a pleasure to work here. I hopefully may see you somewhere else, like on a Wikimedia project, or on IRC.

Oh, and as a last note: I will leave Orain, but not things which are more or less known by people on Orain (e.g. IRC and Wikimedia projects). If you want to contact me, you are always welcome to do so. Either via Special:EmailUser/Southparkfan, IRC (you can usually find me in #wikimedia- channels), or on a Wikimedia project. My username there is Southparkfan.

Thank you for the great times, and goodbye!<br />
[[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] ([[User talk:Southparkfan|talk]]) 18:43, 30 June 2015 (BST)

:Rest in peace SPF July 2013 - June 2015. You will be dearly missed around here, and I plan on keeping in touch. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 18:49, 30 June 2015 (BST)
::You will be missed! You were a great user around here, I hope you do good in what you plan to do!


I have a suspicion that you were doing technical work behind the scenes to keep Orain smoothly and now that you're not here, the server is acting like it misses you. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 01:21, 3 July 2015 (BST)

:Sad to see you go! '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:31, 4 July 2015 (BST)

== Wiki creator ==

Can I become a wiki creator. I would like to help more in Orain. Regards. [[User:Cyborg|Cyborg]] ([[User talk:Cyborg|talk]]) 21:31, 30 June 2015 (BST)
:{{ping|Cyborg}} I'd like you to contact me on IRC (NDK|Cloud) sometime tomorrow when I'm online, or whenever you see me online. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 22:28, 30 June 2015 (BST)
::For the record, while this is not technically a vote, I'd oppose it as not now. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 01:00, 3 July 2015 (BST)
::I don't necessarily 'oppose' but I feel we have enough right now to get the job done for now! '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:31, 4 July 2015 (BST)

== Continued problems on All The Tropes ==

:Every page has the same error when trying to load the subpage tabs at the top. Instead of the buttons to take you to Quotes, Laconic, and such, it displays "Lua error: callParserFunction: function "SUBPAGES" was not found". {{unsigned|QuestionableSanity}}

:: You're lucky allthetropes is even up. right is completely down while all others are up. Whatever's causing the tab error on allthetropes is in Template:Trope. Template:Trope has code like #vardefine, #ifeq, and #invoke which I've seen have parsing trouble on wikis. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 04:16, 1 July 2015 (BST)

::: '''Comment by Sysadmin''' {{ping|QuestionableSanity}} {{ping|Chemtrail Morgellons}} Orain is experiencing global issues with several extensions that use parser functions, and I'm having trouble figuring out why. The issue on ATT is caused by thee fact that several of these extensions have been disabled to make the site accessible. RightWiki is currently experiencing a continuous outage because it uses Extension:EmbedVideo, but I currently can't disable the extension. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 12:30, 1 July 2015 (BST)

:::: Is there an alternate video extension? [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 22:51, 1 July 2015 (BST)
:::::All extensions are now enabled again, let us know if you see any issues... '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:30, 4 July 2015 (BST)

== Extensions disabled ==

* [https://game.orain.org 게임위키](Gamewiki)
[[mw:Extension:EmbedVideo|Extension:EmbedVideo]] has been disabled.

P.S. The speed of the wiki has been too slow. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 01:30, 2 July 2015 (BST)
:{{ping|MINT}} The sysadmins had to disable that extension earlier today in order to fix the MWException errors. I don't have an ETA of when it will be re-enabled (if it will be), but you are welcome to wait for a sysadmin to comment further. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 02:40, 2 July 2015 (BST)
::This has now been reenabled [https://github.com/Orain/ansible-playbook/commit/0ec0f81c9626daae47803195b018b626c3f8e44b here] '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 09:29, 4 July 2015 (BST)
:::Activation but it does not operate. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 01:36, 6 July 2015 (BST)


After being up and down for several days, I notice it's back now but the video code is very different. Not the code for using it, but the code it generates for displaying a video. Then I checked on other websites and I see it's actually YouTube that changed their code--all websites everywhere get this negative change. If you have flashblock and then rightclick to open a video in a new window, it used to display a nice full screen view https colon //www.youtube.com/embed/84hz9w2GlV4 and now it displays a broken view https colon //s.ytimg.com/yts/swfbin/player-vflCB26A5/watch_as3.swf#!flashvars#video_id=nascar-nscs15-day2-high5 . I wonder if YouTube was behind the extension problem.

Also replace "colon" with ":" on the links. I keep getting "Your edit includes new external links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to type the two words you see in the box below:" and no box comes up to enter the CAPTCHA into. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 23:04, 6 July 2015 (BST)
:{{Ping|Chemtrail Morgellons}} I'm so sorry that it won't let you add external links. I've gone ahead and assigned you the necessary permissions (I hope!) to not require you to complete the captcha and add the external links. I'll file a report with our system administrators and see what I can do about the captcha not appearing as well, it definitely should be working! Thank you for also explaining the new YouTube thing! -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 02:02, 7 July 2015 (BST)
::Thank you for the account change. Hmmm... I notice the extension video is back off again. I don't know why the extension still has errors. It might be a combination of two extensions together like people taking multiple pharmaceutical pills as medicine and have bad interactions. You might've heard of elderly people taking 30 different pills together. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 08:35, 7 July 2015 (BST)
:::How about using a different thing to view Youtube Extensions? --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 01:15, 9 July 2015 (BST)

== I can't able to edit entire articles in [http://diav.orain.org my private wiki]. ==

It's only available as 'View Source' and I can't edit them with the reason is 'You do not have permission to edit this page' even my account having administrator and bureaucrat rights on that wiki and there's no protection has applied. So please check that problem if possible? Thanks for read these section. :) --[[User:Lagoon|Lagoon]] ([[User talk:Lagoon|talk]]) 09:41, 3 July 2015 (BST)
:That is odd. {{Ping|NDKilla}} --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 09:45, 3 July 2015 (BST)
::{{ping|Lagoon}} I may be mistaken but it appears you have several edits on your wiki. Did this issue just start? I've been trying to disable editing on closed wikis, sorry about this. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 15:38, 3 July 2015 (BST)
:::{{ping|NDKilla}} Yeah, these problem was started at last a day or two days. --[[User:Lagoon|Lagoon]] ([[User talk:Lagoon|talk]]) 16:11, 3 July 2015 (BST)
::::{{ping|NDKilla}} The issue is with the commit you made last night. You removed the 'edit' right from the user group and now no one has the edit right at all on private wikis. You and I can edit them because we are given that right in our global steward group, but otherwise, no group on the private wiki has the ability to edit. I would suggest adding 'edit' to the sysop, crat, and member groups on private wikis. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 23:18, 3 July 2015 (BST)
:::::[[pull:638|PR #638]] should fix this. [[User:Wynter|Wynter]] ([[User talk:Wynter|talk]]) 23:50, 3 July 2015 (BST)
<sub>(outdent)</sub>Thank you Wynter! -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 01:40, 4 July 2015 (BST)
:Thanks for letting me know where the problem has occur in. Anyway, still my wiki does not able to edit them but I hope they'll fix it soon. --[[User:Lagoon|Lagoon]] ([[User talk:Lagoon|talk]]) 02:02, 4 July 2015 (BST)
::Lagoon, we are just waiting for a system admin to formally approve the changes and you will be all set. It shouldn't be too much longer! Thank you for your patience! -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 03:12, 4 July 2015 (BST)
:::I have merged the PR, this should be deployed in the next 10 mins. '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 08:43, 4 July 2015 (BST)
::::Yeah, it has been nicely fixed right now! Thank you so much! <3 --[[User:Lagoon|Lagoon]] ([[User talk:Lagoon|talk]]) 08:59, 4 July 2015 (BST)
:::::No worries! '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup>

== Request Adoption of http://ga.orain.org/ (Status : Done) ==

:I want to readopt my old wiki. I am the original writer, and it became dormant after i didn't visit for a long time. {{unsigned|Guochel}}
::Okay. I will re-open your wiki. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 10:46, 8 July 2015 (BST)

{{Done}} Your wiki has been re-opened. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 10:53, 8 July 2015 (BST)
:::{{Ping|Guochel}} If you do not edit your wiki in 7 days it will unfortunately be closed again, as if you adopt you also have to '''edit''' the wiki. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 06:25, 20 July 2015 (BST)
::::{{ping|Reception123}} shouldn't he have 30 days from the time the wiki is unlocked and the notice is removed? -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 08:22, 20 July 2015 (BST)
:::::Yes, I am sorry I will wait 4 more days and then the notice will go in action. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 11:11, 20 July 2015 (BST)

== Request importupload right ==

farmingsimulator.orain.org - farmingsimulator - Requesting importupload right (membership in importer group). Thank you :) --[[User:Slivicon|Slivicon]] ([[User talk:Slivicon|talk]]) 23:50, 20 July 2015 (BST)
:Hi there Silvicon! I've granted you membership in the importer group on your wiki. Typically, this right is granted on a temporary basis, but I did not specify an end date for you. When you feel that you no longer need this right, please let us know. So, this is {{done}}. -- <font color="blue"><b>[[User:Joe G|Joe&nbsp;G.]]</b></font> ([[User_talk:Joe G|Talk]]) 00:13, 21 July 2015 (BST)
::{{ping|Joe G}} Thank you, Joe. I am finished importing the farming simulator wiki latest revision XML export from the Wikia farming simulator wiki, under creative commons license. After some discussion with {{ping|NDKilla}}, I've been made aware that some of the Wikia content needed to be deleted, as well as a large number of pages that were not written by me and not relevant to the new farming simulator wiki on orain. I believe I've completed all the obvious deletions, but still am going through each remaining page. I had also mentioned to {{ping|Reception123}} on the requests board, but I would like to ask that, because this is a new wiki, and I am the only contributor so far, and I'm deleting all content that may seem unattributed, I want to ensure no possibility of any complaint or future restoration of deleted imported data. Would it be possible to please have someone run the maintenance scripts [[mw:Manual:DeleteOldRevisions.php]] and [[mw:Manual:DeleteArchivedRevisions.php]] (obviously only for farmingsimulator.orain.org)? I may have to request it be done again in the near future once I've gone over the remaining imported data, but wanted to ask now since the bulk of the obvious has been either deleted or removed in edits. Thank you. --[[User:Slivicon|Slivicon]] ([[User talk:Slivicon|talk]]) 18:08, 21 July 2015 (BST)

== Extensions Error ==

Extension:EmbedVideo the installation but, not to work. This video is not shown in the document. Replace text, failed to function. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 00:25, 21 July 2015 (BST)
:This issue is an important issue in the (my)wiki. I want a quick solution. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 01:10, 23 July 2015 (BST)
:An error has now disappeared. However, there were no errors have occurred in the past again. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 03:15, 23 July 2015 (BST)
::{{Ping|MINT}} So that means there is no more error? [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 05:21, 23 July 2015 (BST)
:::There is no one now. However, the situation is probably not as reliable. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 09:52, 23 July 2015 (BST)
::::I will notify sysadmin's about the issue and see what can be done. --[[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 12:27, 23 July 2015 (BST)
:::::Was this an exception or some other type of error? Did you take a screenshot? '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black">·addshore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">talk to me!</span>]]</sup> 12:33, 23 July 2015 (BST)
::::::{{Ping|MINT}} [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 12:35, 23 July 2015 (BST)
::::::I'm sorry. I could not capture. Later it will capture when an error occurs. --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 09:04, 24 July 2015 (BST)
::::::{{Ping|MINT}} Could you at least give us a link? [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 10:49, 24 July 2015 (BST)

(Reset indent) {{ping|MINT}} per [https://game.orain.org/wiki/사용자:NDKilla my user page on the wiki] and Special:Version it appears as though EV is working. If you encounter any more errors please capture it and leave a note here. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 12:49, 24 July 2015 (BST)
:An error occurred again. [[:File:Youtuberror.jpg]] --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 01:02, 26 July 2015 (BST)

The problem happened last month and it used to shut down Orain for days. It's many more extensions than this actually. There's embedvideo and there's what allthetropes uses on its article pages for a menu. I believe there's more. The adminstrators of Orain other than Addshore tried to fix it and could not so they disabled all the extensions. July 4, Addshore came in and fixed it, which lasted a day and then Orain started going down so I emailed him. Addshore, being the skilled technical person he is, fixed it so it permanently would never have Orain go down. He set it so the MWExceptions now get written into a logfile [https://github.com/Orain/mediawiki-core/commit/f1e5359d06f8186d05902e0ea6aad71d4a1f9558] so now Orain never went down from this again. (Wikia does the same thing [https://github.com/Wikia/app/blob/dev/includes/MagicWord.php#L293]). The extention error wasn't fixed, just the issue of Orain going down completely. There appears to be a conflict between multiple extensions or god knows what because when the error occurs, all the extensions I mentioned stop working like they're disabled, but nobody disables them. An hour later, they work again. Addshore has not replied to emails since July 10 and the issue has remained as is. Addshore is a brillian technical person it seems (I thought so since I read [http://addshore.com/2015/05/ddos-of-orain/ this entry on his blog]) but the issue still continues. Embedvideo itself is nothing more than some basic HTML code and it literally just needs a simple template with pure HTML that copies the exact code with a variable for the video and title and it would work the same -- the extension itself however appears to not cache its work for more than an hour and one option is replacing it with a pure HTML template (just copy the HTML code for each video site, likely only YouTube, and a Steward with permissions can make a pure HTML template). However invoking it while similar to invoking a template uses "#ev:youtube" and starting a template title with a "#" character is not allowed, though a template "ev:youtube" is allowed. Or perhaps Addshore or somebody can fix the extension issues permanently. It sounds like near the end of June an extension was either added or updated and multiple are conflicting. I am very happy with Orain very strong uptime this month though. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 01:42, 31 July 2015 (BST)

It's been going on for 33 days so far. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 12:11, 6 August 2015 (BST)
:This error can not you fix it? --[[User:MINT|MINT]] ([[User talk:MINT|talk]]) 00:40, 8 August 2015 (BST)
::Orain technicians are the ones who have access to fix it. It is in Orain's server-side configuration. Addshore sent the errors to logfiles and the errors which my guess is are just the vague errors it used to send publicaly, "MWException" followed by random numbers. If the errors can be logged in detail, the source can be found. I am not sure how many extensions are affected but multiple extensions probably are in conflict with one another. [[User:Chemtrail Morgellons|Chemtrail Morgellons]] ([[User talk:Chemtrail Morgellons|talk]]) 10:03, 8 August 2015 (BST)

== Request to enable importing ==

Hello! I'd like to ask to have importing (membership in importer group) of XML files enabled on [https://cwsplanet.orain.org cwsplanet.orain.org]. Thank you! :) [[User:ConWorkShop|ConWorkShop]] ([[User talk:ConWorkShop|talk]]) 20:22, 25 July 2015 (BST)

:{{ping|ConWorkShop}} how many pages are you going to be importing and how big is the XML file? Note that this right is assigned by stewards only and usually temporarily. I'm assuming you want it not permission to give it. -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 20:59, 25 July 2015 (BST)

== Notification of Extended Inactivity ==

I will be entirely unavailable beginning August 9th for an indefinite amount of time. I will be moving from Canada to the United States. During this time, if you need anything that's urgent, please email staff(at)orain.org or contact your next favorite Steward. Should that be unsuccessful or should you feel that your issue is unresolved, please contact [[User:Kudu|Kudu]]. He will have the final say on all issues during this time. You're welcome to still send me messages and I'll reply as able - just don't count on it. Thank you for choosing Orain, and have yourself a wonderful day. <font face="MV Boli">[[User:Dusti|'''<font color="#ff0000">D</font><font color="#ff6600">u</font><font color="#009900">s</font><font color="#0000ff">t</font><font color="#6600cc">i</font>''']][[User talk:Dusti|<sup>*Let's talk!*</sup>]]</font> 03:59, 3 August 2015 (BST)
:Good luck with the move, Dusti -- Cheers, [[User:NDKilla|NDKilla]] <sup> ( [[User talk:NDKilla|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NDKilla|Contribs]] ) </sup> 17:15, 3 August 2015 (BST)

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Global Rename

Sorry, I forgot writting URL of my wiki; the URL is http://krsw.orain.org/. --Kalsava(カルサヴァ) (talk) 06:13, 3 June 2015 (BST)

This is the right place to request global renames. For features on your wiki, please see the feature request page and me or another user will help you ASAP. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 12:38, 3 June 2015 (BST)
Sorry, I'll post request on my wiki in the feature request page. but I'd like to be renamed as above globally; would you rename me globally?--Kalsava(カルサヴァ) (talk) 19:08, 3 June 2015 (BST)
No need to be sorry. Unfortunately, I can't rename you because that requires a Steward. I am not a Steward but I just saw your message here. I'd love to help you with your feature request asap tho. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 20:48, 3 June 2015 (BST)
Done Rename initiated Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:22, 25 June 2015 (BST)

Replace my Username

Can you replace my username in Wikimarius. Romanianaturewiki (talk) 18:48, 3 June 2015 (BST)

Are you asking to be renamed @Romanianaturewiki: Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:22, 25 June 2015 (BST)

request to enable translations

Sorry to repeat request. I'd like to translate Template:Wiki farm comparison into Japanese. but the page isn't enabled translations. would you enable it?--Kalsava(カルサヴァ) (talk) 08:12, 4 June 2015 (BST)

 Done by User:Southparkfan -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 20:54, 4 June 2015 (BST)

Adoption of NederlandWiki

Hello. Could someone give me this wiki to adopt? Thanks anyway. Tintle (talk) 19:04, 4 June 2015 (BST)

Problem: no permissions on new wiki

Referring to this support ticket suggesting staff intervention, it seems that permissions are wrong on my recently created wiki "rohbiotik.orain.org". Please correct them. Thanks in advance! --Rohbio.net (talk) 14:44, 5 June 2015 (BST)

Could someone please check this? Thanks! --Rohbio.net (talk) 20:57, 14 June 2015 (BST)
@Rohbio.net: after becoming a sysadmin I manually granted you founder rights on June 16th. Are you still having this issue? If any other users experience issues let me know as it sounds like no pages are whitelisted on your private wiki. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 23:11, 25 June 2015 (BST)
@NDKilla:It works fine now, thanks! --Rohbio.net (talk) 03:29, 27 June 2015 (BST)

TestWiki: Proposal for bureaucrat unblockself

Hello, I will link you a proposal from the TestWiki that has consesus to add the unblockself permission to the bureaucrat group. Here is the link to the proposal : link. @NDKilla: as he is the starter of this proposal. --Reception123 (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2015 (BST)

I am sure someone will get to this as soon as they have time! You could speed the process up by making the change yourself in the ansible-playbook on github! ·addshore· talk to me! 19:57, 8 June 2015 (BST)
And how can I do this? Could you please give me a link? (Sorry for bothering you). --Reception123 (talk) 19:59, 8 June 2015 (BST)
The playbook is here, mediawiki settings can be found here ·addshore· talk to me! 20:09, 8 June 2015 (BST)
Thank you. I am not very good at coding so probably someone else could do this. Wouldn't this edit Orain meta as well? --Reception123 (talk) 20:11, 8 June 2015 (BST)
This would not affect meta if done right because you can enable the settings only on test wiki. I'll get around to it today or tomorrow. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 21:26, 8 June 2015 (BST)
Thank you. If you have time please leave me a message or on the community portal when you do the change. Reception123 (talk) 12:20, 10 June 2015 (BST)

 Done by SPF --Reception123 (talk) 18:20, 11 June 2015 (BST)

Admin Permissions on Izanagi

Hi, It seems, my permissions weren't layer out correctly. As the founder of izanagi.orain.org, I don't have the permission to set user rights or upload files. I understand its some error with CreateWiki and was directed here. Please fix at you convenience.

Thank you!


 Done a while ago. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 12:06, 27 June 2015 (BST)

Bureaucrat and Admin on Roemenie and Ruimtevaart Wiki

I am the maker of Roemenie Wiki : roemenie.orain.org and [[1]]. Why i am not bureaucrat and admin ? Can you please change it Romanianaturewiki (talk) 06:06, 6 June 2015 (BST)

This request is here for 6 days. @Addshore: @Southparkfan: --Reception123 (talk) 18:13, 12 June 2015 (BST)
 Done by me on June 16th -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 23:15, 25 June 2015 (BST)

Removal of access

Because of the new proposal of inactivity of administrators, I removed the flag of users with 6 months or more of inactivity. Some of them, have the bureaucrat flag too, so please, remove it from them.

Users

Thank you. Cyborg (talk) 22:14, 8 June 2015 (BST)

Of course this is on the TestWiki. @Southparkfan: Could you please take care of this? --Reception123 (talk) 12:19, 10 June 2015 (BST)
All done ·addshore· talk to me! 09:34, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Steward nomination

On hold/Pending Closure Pending discussion with @Southparkfan: Dusti*Let's talk!* 19:18, 25 June 2015 (BST)
Not done After a discussion with Southparkfan, this steward nomination is being closed as unsuccessful. Thank you all for your time, patience, and understanding. Dusti*Let's talk!* 17:55, 26 June 2015 (BST)

Request for Wiki Creator

As addshore has told me to post on "Orain Meta", after I sent him an email I will. I would like to be Wiki Creator because I do not think there are enough. As NDKilla has been chosen administrator and sysadmin she will no longer have time to do all the Wiki Creating. I have read the guide and I know how the process to create wiki's works. --Reception123 (talk) 18:16, 18 June 2015 (BST)

For the record I plan on still handling wiki creation as a sysadmin but I am currently out of the country. I have no objections to Reception123 becoming a wiki creator but would like someone else to guide as I will be busy. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 19:32, 18 June 2015 (BST)
Yes, but you will of course have bigger responsibilities. --Reception123 (talk) 19:33, 18 June 2015 (BST)
What is the current state with creating CNAMEs? Did anyone manage to fix the auto creation? ·addshore· talk to me! 22:26, 18 June 2015 (BST)
I don't think so.... Sadly ;( -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 15:47, 19 June 2015 (BST)
Rights granted. Please do not create wikis yet until we (either addshore, NDKilla or me) said you can - there are some issues that need to be fixed first. Southparkfan (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2015 (BST)
Thank you very much! Please write on my talkpage when I can start creating wikis. --Reception123 (talk) 19:02, 19 June 2015 (BST)

Problem with thumbnail

https://right.orain.org/wiki/File:Global_Fertility_Rates,_1970_and_2014.png The file does not show at all. The file on the pc is correct, size is 284kB. Fiala1 (talk) 19:45, 24 June 2015 (BST)

@Fiala1: What do you mean it doesn't show up? It appears that the larger version was creating issues but the 283kB file currently uploaded works. My user page has two different size thumbnails of the image, and it also appears on the image's information page. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 20:58, 24 June 2015 (BST)
It most likely was a caching issue. You should always try purging the page first before doing anything else. Wynter (talk) 04:15, 25 June 2015 (BST)
Tech:Noticeboard#Thumbnail problems the image is now working because it was manually resized.. I've seen this problem in other places with large images.. Like I said on the noticeboard I'm not sure if it's an issue with the built in thumbnail size limiter or if it's an actual limitation that will have to be worked around. Anyways, feels more techy than stewardy -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 23:21, 25 June 2015 (BST)

Delete my wiki

Greetings all. Please delete my wiki completely. I don't want the old pages showing up in any new wiki under this subdomain:

I have decided not to follow through and create another cannabis wiki. I was thinking of a different focus for this cannabis wiki, versus the other cannabis wikis out there I have worked on. But I don't have the time.

I want complete deletion and not adoption. That way people will not be confused if they see my user name on the edit history of any pages here. They were mostly framework pages and categories. I already deleted all the pages and categories. And I don't want them undeleted. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:59, 28 June 2015 (BST)

Hi Timeshifter! I'm sorry to hear that you didn't have time to attend to your other cannabis wiki. Unfortunately, we do not delete wikis here at Orain upon request. Your wiki will follow the dormant wikis policy and be closed upon meeting inactivity criteria. If another steward of sysadmin wants to close it earlier, they may do so. After 6 months of inactivity, the wiki may then be permanently deleted. I do not think you will have anyone restoring pages with your username in the edit history, and if they do, you are free to ask them to remove it at their discretion. I'm sorry we cannot directly fulfill your request, but thank you for using Orain! -- Joe G. (Talk) 18:46, 28 June 2015 (BST)
I can understand the hesitation on the part of a wiki farm to delete a wiki. Some wiki farms are OK with it, and some aren't. Wikis with one controlling person (only one bureaucrat or steward) should be allowed to do this in my opinion, especially if nearly all the edits are theirs. In my wiki, there are *no* pages to defend or be worried about. See:
https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/Special:AllPages - only redirects show up. I am not even sure how they arrived here. I think a steward may have misinterpreted or enlarged one of my import requests. I did not bother deleting the redirects since they are not seen anywhere after all the pages were deleted. Those redirects in the "AllPages" results though might irritate somebody that adopts the subdomain. Why not give them a clean wiki instead, by deleting the wiki completely. Then give them single-bureaucrat status on the totally clean subdomain of cannabis.orain.org
From Dormant wikis page: "After 6 months of inactivity, a wiki may be permanently deleted from the network unless a request is made for archival where the wiki will be kept on the network indefinitely or until such a request becomes outdated." There is nothing to archive. So why wait? --Timeshifter (talk) 22:10, 28 June 2015 (BST)
The dormant wiki page also says that someone can adopt the wiki within that period if they so wish. I know it is not your desire that someone does, but if they want to, we don't have a compelling reason not to let them. At this time, I am not in a position to make an exception to the policy and think it should stand as is. If another steward wishes to make an exception, that is their choice and I will respect it. I'm sorry that my answer isn't what you'd like it to be, but it is the policy as it is currently written. -- Joe G. (Talk) 01:56, 29 June 2015 (BST)
OK. Could you ask the other stewards about this? Rules usually have exceptions. "I know it is not your desire that someone does". No, I want someone else to adopt the subdomain, cannabis.orain.org. I am trying to free it up completely.
I have a question. Is there some kind of mass delete function, I or you can use to delete all the redirects listed here:
https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/Special:AllPages - nearly all of them never redirected to actual pages here. I only experimented with a few opinion pages here months ago when I was thinking of forking them from my pages on Wikia's cannabis wiki, where I am the sole bureaucrat. But I soon deleted the opinion pages here after further thought, and deciding against forking everything from Wikia to other wikis. I had already forked the Global Marijuana March city pages to Shoutwiki's cannabis wiki, where I am the steward. I had decided to keep the opinion pages on Wikia months ago. I was thinking of maybe starting another focus here on the Orain wiki. But I no longer have the time to do so. Anyway, I don't want to have to tediously delete the redirects one by one. Can you or another steward or admin help? --Timeshifter (talk) 09:41, 29 June 2015 (BST)

(reset outdent) So, what you basically want, is to delete all of the redirects that still remain or all of the pages listed on AllPages? We do have Special:Nuke, but I don't know if it is available on each wiki. If not, I will happily delete whatever pages you want. -- Joe G. (Talk) 17:24, 29 June 2015 (BST)

Actually, I just tried to nuke some of the pages on your wiki and because they are not recently added, I cannot. The system administrators do have the ability to run deleteBatch.php on a list of pages. I'll go poke one of the for you. -- Joe G. (Talk) 17:27, 29 June 2015 (BST)
Thanks. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:23, 29 June 2015 (BST)

Fatal exception of type MWException

I've noticed some wikis have been getting this error. Every few page refreshes it comes up. So far I've seen it on allthetropes and right orain wikis. The page is blank except for things like "[a2eacd4d] 2015-06-29 03:21:56: Fatal exception of type MWException" and "[bf1321ce] 2015-06-29 03:22:01: Fatal exception of type MWException". Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 04:41, 29 June 2015 (BST)

Like I said below, both wikis work for me. The issues have been resolved. --Reception123 (talk) 14:38, 29 June 2015 (BST)
Indeed all of these issues should now be resolved. ·addshore· talk to me! 09:32, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Deleting Wikis : 6 Months of inactivity

Hello, there are some wiki's that have been closed for 6 months and have not been adopted by anyone, as of the Dormant wikis these wiki's should be deleted by a steward. There is a list below of these Wikis. I have not yet found all of them, I will add them to this list. @Joe G: You have helped me with the Dormant wikis so maybe you could do the deleting. --Reception123 (talk) 08:41, 29 June 2015 (BST) https://ansiklopedi.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://cricket.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://darknessdwellers.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://eikes.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://frmodamob.orain.org/wiki/Bienvenue

https://nederland.orain.org

http://programminggames.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

https://faalingar.orain.org

@Reception123: I don't think I have the technical ability to delete the wiki, just close them. As a wikicreator, you have the ability to add the databases of those wikis to the Deleted Wikis List and someone will take care of it from there. -- Joe G. (Talk) 15:52, 29 June 2015 (BST)
Okay, as a steward I thought you would have the ability to delete wikis. Probably yes, somebody else will. --Reception123 (talk) 17:23, 29 June 2015 (BST)
@Addshore: as you have root access. Reception123 (talk) 19:27, 30 June 2015 (BST)
Thanks for this! They will be deleted / archived in due course but are no longer accessible anyway! :) ·addshore· talk to me! 09:21, 4 July 2015 (BST)
When you do delete/archive please also do :

tintlewiki tintlewikiwiki estintlewiki

per the request of author. This is on the behalf of User:NDKilla Reception123 (talk) 13:41, 5 July 2015 (BST)

exception on right.orain.org

when we try to edit, we get: [85861b6b] 2015-06-29 08:16:52: Fatal exception of type MWException We also get the same type of exception, when we try to look at the Recent changes page. Fiala1 (talk) 09:17, 29 June 2015 (BST)

I can perfectly see both the RecentChanges page, and edit other pages. I have heard the error has been solved. --Reception123 (talk) 14:35, 29 June 2015 (BST)
Monday, it came back and by mid-day everything was down on all wikis except for the very front page of meta.orain.org -- all other pages were down. I did a test and found that Cloudflare wasn't bringing up the CAPTCHA page for Tor so something is being routed wrong. Orain stayed down all Monday through the night and came back at some point today, Tuesday...but I only checked first an hour ago. Today, meta and allthetropes work perfectly but right gets errors about 3/4th of the time when not logged in and about 1/2 of the time when logged in. As of now it happens far more often on &action=history pages and Special: pages like Special:Recentchanges and submitting things to a show preview does it like all of the time. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 21:24, 30 June 2015 (BST)

Now (30th June, 2015), 22:22 evening, Middle European Time, again: Selecting recent changes causes:
[848019ec] 2015-06-30 20:21:34: Fatal exception of type MWException
Calling edit on any the page also causes exeption
[97094500] 2015-06-30 20:28:53: Fatal exception of type MWException
Strangely the error comes and goes, after page reload it disappears, and later re-appears.
Fiala1 (talk) 21:23, 30 June 2015 (BST)


right.orain is now fully down and even after hundreds of refreshes, won't load anymore. Other wikis still work. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 00:03, 1 July 2015 (BST)

The MWException mainly affects right.orain even though the extensions are for another wiki, likely the testwiki. The testwiki and all the other wikis get intermitent errors but are not down. Sunday, Monday, and today right.orain gets growing MWException and then permanently goes down around noon from MWException. It stays down for about 22 hours, then is up about 2 hours, then goes right back down. Last month Orain had outages like this and it lasted weeks.

I tested it and I am not getting the Cloudflare CAPTCHA when I connect on Tor so Cloudflare is not up. That may be related to the issue. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 01:58, 1 July 2015 (BST)

All of these should now be fixed. ·addshore· talk to me! 09:32, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Notification of resignment

Dear readers,

I write this message because I want to explain the community something. You may or may not know who I am, but I’m currently best known as a wiki creator, global sysop and system admininistrator who has been part of Orain since the beginning (in July two years ago!). I have various rights and roles here, and I have always contributed to Orain as best as I can. But, from now on, I will no longer be a wiki creator, global sysop or sysadmin.

I’ll immediately resign from all my positions (as of writing: Meta sysop, Meta bureaucrat, Global Rollbacker, Global Sysop, system administrator (and some other accounts related to this)). There are a few reasons for that.

I don’t really like the work anymore. Despite the fact that I work as a volunteer, I feel the work has become more of a responsibility than something you like to do. That’s not anyone’s fault (I really mean that), but I still don’t really enjoy it anymore compared to a while back before this. I don’t want to do volunteer work if I feel it’s not really volunteering anymore.

There are also some more reasons besides the above one, but I’d like to keep them private. I’d like to thank you all for all the great times I have had with you. It was a pleasure to work here. I hopefully may see you somewhere else, like on a Wikimedia project, or on IRC.

Oh, and as a last note: I will leave Orain, but not things which are more or less known by people on Orain (e.g. IRC and Wikimedia projects). If you want to contact me, you are always welcome to do so. Either via Special:EmailUser/Southparkfan, IRC (you can usually find me in #wikimedia- channels), or on a Wikimedia project. My username there is Southparkfan.

Thank you for the great times, and goodbye!
Southparkfan (talk) 18:43, 30 June 2015 (BST)

Rest in peace SPF July 2013 - June 2015. You will be dearly missed around here, and I plan on keeping in touch. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 18:49, 30 June 2015 (BST)
You will be missed! You were a great user around here, I hope you do good in what you plan to do!


I have a suspicion that you were doing technical work behind the scenes to keep Orain smoothly and now that you're not here, the server is acting like it misses you. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 01:21, 3 July 2015 (BST)

Sad to see you go! ·addshore· talk to me! 09:31, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Wiki creator

Can I become a wiki creator. I would like to help more in Orain. Regards. Cyborg (talk) 21:31, 30 June 2015 (BST)

@Cyborg: I'd like you to contact me on IRC (NDK|Cloud) sometime tomorrow when I'm online, or whenever you see me online. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 22:28, 30 June 2015 (BST)
For the record, while this is not technically a vote, I'd oppose it as not now. -- Joe G. (Talk) 01:00, 3 July 2015 (BST)
I don't necessarily 'oppose' but I feel we have enough right now to get the job done for now! ·addshore· talk to me! 09:31, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Continued problems on All The Tropes

Every page has the same error when trying to load the subpage tabs at the top. Instead of the buttons to take you to Quotes, Laconic, and such, it displays "Lua error: callParserFunction: function "SUBPAGES" was not found". — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuestionableSanity (talkcontribs)
You're lucky allthetropes is even up. right is completely down while all others are up. Whatever's causing the tab error on allthetropes is in Template:Trope. Template:Trope has code like #vardefine, #ifeq, and #invoke which I've seen have parsing trouble on wikis. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 04:16, 1 July 2015 (BST)
Comment by Sysadmin @QuestionableSanity: @Chemtrail Morgellons: Orain is experiencing global issues with several extensions that use parser functions, and I'm having trouble figuring out why. The issue on ATT is caused by thee fact that several of these extensions have been disabled to make the site accessible. RightWiki is currently experiencing a continuous outage because it uses Extension:EmbedVideo, but I currently can't disable the extension. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 12:30, 1 July 2015 (BST)
Is there an alternate video extension? Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2015 (BST)
All extensions are now enabled again, let us know if you see any issues... ·addshore· talk to me! 09:30, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Extensions disabled

Extension:EmbedVideo has been disabled.

P.S. The speed of the wiki has been too slow. --MINT (talk) 01:30, 2 July 2015 (BST)

@MINT: The sysadmins had to disable that extension earlier today in order to fix the MWException errors. I don't have an ETA of when it will be re-enabled (if it will be), but you are welcome to wait for a sysadmin to comment further. -- Joe G. (Talk) 02:40, 2 July 2015 (BST)
This has now been reenabled here ·addshore· talk to me! 09:29, 4 July 2015 (BST)
Activation but it does not operate. --MINT (talk) 01:36, 6 July 2015 (BST)


After being up and down for several days, I notice it's back now but the video code is very different. Not the code for using it, but the code it generates for displaying a video. Then I checked on other websites and I see it's actually YouTube that changed their code--all websites everywhere get this negative change. If you have flashblock and then rightclick to open a video in a new window, it used to display a nice full screen view https colon //www.youtube.com/embed/84hz9w2GlV4 and now it displays a broken view https colon //s.ytimg.com/yts/swfbin/player-vflCB26A5/watch_as3.swf#!flashvars#video_id=nascar-nscs15-day2-high5 . I wonder if YouTube was behind the extension problem.

Also replace "colon" with ":" on the links. I keep getting "Your edit includes new external links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to type the two words you see in the box below:" and no box comes up to enter the CAPTCHA into. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 23:04, 6 July 2015 (BST)

@Chemtrail Morgellons: I'm so sorry that it won't let you add external links. I've gone ahead and assigned you the necessary permissions (I hope!) to not require you to complete the captcha and add the external links. I'll file a report with our system administrators and see what I can do about the captcha not appearing as well, it definitely should be working! Thank you for also explaining the new YouTube thing! -- Joe G. (Talk) 02:02, 7 July 2015 (BST)
Thank you for the account change. Hmmm... I notice the extension video is back off again. I don't know why the extension still has errors. It might be a combination of two extensions together like people taking multiple pharmaceutical pills as medicine and have bad interactions. You might've heard of elderly people taking 30 different pills together. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 08:35, 7 July 2015 (BST)
How about using a different thing to view Youtube Extensions? --MINT (talk) 01:15, 9 July 2015 (BST)

I can't able to edit entire articles in my private wiki.

It's only available as 'View Source' and I can't edit them with the reason is 'You do not have permission to edit this page' even my account having administrator and bureaucrat rights on that wiki and there's no protection has applied. So please check that problem if possible? Thanks for read these section. :) --Lagoon (talk) 09:41, 3 July 2015 (BST)

That is odd. @NDKilla: --Reception123 (talk) 09:45, 3 July 2015 (BST)
@Lagoon: I may be mistaken but it appears you have several edits on your wiki. Did this issue just start? I've been trying to disable editing on closed wikis, sorry about this. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 15:38, 3 July 2015 (BST)
@NDKilla: Yeah, these problem was started at last a day or two days. --Lagoon (talk) 16:11, 3 July 2015 (BST)
@NDKilla: The issue is with the commit you made last night. You removed the 'edit' right from the user group and now no one has the edit right at all on private wikis. You and I can edit them because we are given that right in our global steward group, but otherwise, no group on the private wiki has the ability to edit. I would suggest adding 'edit' to the sysop, crat, and member groups on private wikis. -- Joe G. (Talk) 23:18, 3 July 2015 (BST)
PR #638 should fix this. Wynter (talk) 23:50, 3 July 2015 (BST)

(outdent)Thank you Wynter! -- Joe G. (Talk) 01:40, 4 July 2015 (BST)

Thanks for letting me know where the problem has occur in. Anyway, still my wiki does not able to edit them but I hope they'll fix it soon. --Lagoon (talk) 02:02, 4 July 2015 (BST)
Lagoon, we are just waiting for a system admin to formally approve the changes and you will be all set. It shouldn't be too much longer! Thank you for your patience! -- Joe G. (Talk) 03:12, 4 July 2015 (BST)
I have merged the PR, this should be deployed in the next 10 mins. ·addshore· talk to me! 08:43, 4 July 2015 (BST)
Yeah, it has been nicely fixed right now! Thank you so much! <3 --Lagoon (talk) 08:59, 4 July 2015 (BST)
No worries! ·addshore· talk to me!

Request Adoption of http://ga.orain.org/ (Status : Done)

I want to readopt my old wiki. I am the original writer, and it became dormant after i didn't visit for a long time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guochel (talkcontribs)
Okay. I will re-open your wiki. --Reception123 (talk) 10:46, 8 July 2015 (BST)

 Done Your wiki has been re-opened. --Reception123 (talk) 10:53, 8 July 2015 (BST)

@Guochel: If you do not edit your wiki in 7 days it will unfortunately be closed again, as if you adopt you also have to edit the wiki. --Reception123 (talk) 06:25, 20 July 2015 (BST)
@Reception123: shouldn't he have 30 days from the time the wiki is unlocked and the notice is removed? -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 08:22, 20 July 2015 (BST)
Yes, I am sorry I will wait 4 more days and then the notice will go in action. --Reception123 (talk) 11:11, 20 July 2015 (BST)

Request importupload right

farmingsimulator.orain.org - farmingsimulator - Requesting importupload right (membership in importer group). Thank you :) --Slivicon (talk) 23:50, 20 July 2015 (BST)

Hi there Silvicon! I've granted you membership in the importer group on your wiki. Typically, this right is granted on a temporary basis, but I did not specify an end date for you. When you feel that you no longer need this right, please let us know. So, this is  Done. -- Joe G. (Talk) 00:13, 21 July 2015 (BST)
@Joe G: Thank you, Joe. I am finished importing the farming simulator wiki latest revision XML export from the Wikia farming simulator wiki, under creative commons license. After some discussion with @NDKilla:, I've been made aware that some of the Wikia content needed to be deleted, as well as a large number of pages that were not written by me and not relevant to the new farming simulator wiki on orain. I believe I've completed all the obvious deletions, but still am going through each remaining page. I had also mentioned to @Reception123: on the requests board, but I would like to ask that, because this is a new wiki, and I am the only contributor so far, and I'm deleting all content that may seem unattributed, I want to ensure no possibility of any complaint or future restoration of deleted imported data. Would it be possible to please have someone run the maintenance scripts mw:Manual:DeleteOldRevisions.php and mw:Manual:DeleteArchivedRevisions.php (obviously only for farmingsimulator.orain.org)? I may have to request it be done again in the near future once I've gone over the remaining imported data, but wanted to ask now since the bulk of the obvious has been either deleted or removed in edits. Thank you. --Slivicon (talk) 18:08, 21 July 2015 (BST)

Extensions Error

Extension:EmbedVideo the installation but, not to work. This video is not shown in the document. Replace text, failed to function. --MINT (talk) 00:25, 21 July 2015 (BST)

This issue is an important issue in the (my)wiki. I want a quick solution. --MINT (talk) 01:10, 23 July 2015 (BST)
An error has now disappeared. However, there were no errors have occurred in the past again. --MINT (talk) 03:15, 23 July 2015 (BST)
@MINT: So that means there is no more error? Reception123 (talk) 05:21, 23 July 2015 (BST)
There is no one now. However, the situation is probably not as reliable. --MINT (talk) 09:52, 23 July 2015 (BST)
I will notify sysadmin's about the issue and see what can be done. --Reception123 (talk) 12:27, 23 July 2015 (BST)
Was this an exception or some other type of error? Did you take a screenshot? ·addshore· talk to me! 12:33, 23 July 2015 (BST)
@MINT: Reception123 (talk) 12:35, 23 July 2015 (BST)
I'm sorry. I could not capture. Later it will capture when an error occurs. --MINT (talk) 09:04, 24 July 2015 (BST)
@MINT: Could you at least give us a link? Reception123 (talk) 10:49, 24 July 2015 (BST)

(Reset indent) @MINT: per my user page on the wiki and Special:Version it appears as though EV is working. If you encounter any more errors please capture it and leave a note here. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 12:49, 24 July 2015 (BST)

An error occurred again. File:Youtuberror.jpg --MINT (talk) 01:02, 26 July 2015 (BST)

The problem happened last month and it used to shut down Orain for days. It's many more extensions than this actually. There's embedvideo and there's what allthetropes uses on its article pages for a menu. I believe there's more. The adminstrators of Orain other than Addshore tried to fix it and could not so they disabled all the extensions. July 4, Addshore came in and fixed it, which lasted a day and then Orain started going down so I emailed him. Addshore, being the skilled technical person he is, fixed it so it permanently would never have Orain go down. He set it so the MWExceptions now get written into a logfile [2] so now Orain never went down from this again. (Wikia does the same thing [3]). The extention error wasn't fixed, just the issue of Orain going down completely. There appears to be a conflict between multiple extensions or god knows what because when the error occurs, all the extensions I mentioned stop working like they're disabled, but nobody disables them. An hour later, they work again. Addshore has not replied to emails since July 10 and the issue has remained as is. Addshore is a brillian technical person it seems (I thought so since I read this entry on his blog) but the issue still continues. Embedvideo itself is nothing more than some basic HTML code and it literally just needs a simple template with pure HTML that copies the exact code with a variable for the video and title and it would work the same -- the extension itself however appears to not cache its work for more than an hour and one option is replacing it with a pure HTML template (just copy the HTML code for each video site, likely only YouTube, and a Steward with permissions can make a pure HTML template). However invoking it while similar to invoking a template uses "#ev:youtube" and starting a template title with a "#" character is not allowed, though a template "ev:youtube" is allowed. Or perhaps Addshore or somebody can fix the extension issues permanently. It sounds like near the end of June an extension was either added or updated and multiple are conflicting. I am very happy with Orain very strong uptime this month though. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 01:42, 31 July 2015 (BST)

It's been going on for 33 days so far. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 12:11, 6 August 2015 (BST)

This error can not you fix it? --MINT (talk) 00:40, 8 August 2015 (BST)
Orain technicians are the ones who have access to fix it. It is in Orain's server-side configuration. Addshore sent the errors to logfiles and the errors which my guess is are just the vague errors it used to send publicaly, "MWException" followed by random numbers. If the errors can be logged in detail, the source can be found. I am not sure how many extensions are affected but multiple extensions probably are in conflict with one another. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 10:03, 8 August 2015 (BST)

Request to enable importing

Hello! I'd like to ask to have importing (membership in importer group) of XML files enabled on cwsplanet.orain.org. Thank you! :) ConWorkShop (talk) 20:22, 25 July 2015 (BST)

@ConWorkShop: how many pages are you going to be importing and how big is the XML file? Note that this right is assigned by stewards only and usually temporarily. I'm assuming you want it not permission to give it. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 20:59, 25 July 2015 (BST)

Notification of Extended Inactivity

I will be entirely unavailable beginning August 9th for an indefinite amount of time. I will be moving from Canada to the United States. During this time, if you need anything that's urgent, please email staff(at)orain.org or contact your next favorite Steward. Should that be unsuccessful or should you feel that your issue is unresolved, please contact Kudu. He will have the final say on all issues during this time. You're welcome to still send me messages and I'll reply as able - just don't count on it. Thank you for choosing Orain, and have yourself a wonderful day. Dusti*Let's talk!* 03:59, 3 August 2015 (BST)

Good luck with the move, Dusti -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 17:15, 3 August 2015 (BST)